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  1. So you guys think Miroslav is at least a pretty decent upgrade to the strings that are included with Logic Studio, then? Seems like more articulations, customizability, and people dig the sound of the solo instruments. Does this match up with your experience?
  2. Of course, I see that David "himself" 8) is still running 9.1.4 on Leopard – 10.5.8. I'm still on 9.1.1 and 10.5.8, since it has been rock solid for me. I'm not planning on updating the OS any time soon. But should I update Logic? Anyone running 9.1.5 smoothly on 10.5.8?
  3. I have a bit of an unusual question. Thanks to the fantastic 3-for-1 group buy deal over at IK Multimedia right now, I am facing a choice. I got what I really needed in the first two, and that third product is a pure bonus for me right now. So I'm left with a choice between Miroslav Philharmonik (full version) and Sampletron. Does anyone on here have any suggestions on which one I should get? Before you say anything, understand that I'll likely find equal amounts of use for orchestral and mellotron sounds in my songwriting and recording, so it's not a matter of "pick the one that fits your needs best". What I'm after here is which collection complements what I've already got in Logic Studio best. Are the Miroslav strings a big improvement on what's already in Logic? Or will the Mellotrons, Chamberlins, etc. in Sampletron fill a bigger hole? Again, this is a free product for me, so I could go either way. Thanks in advance for your advice/recommendations/experience.
  4. The Steven Slate drums are FULLY PROCESSED. Not a good suggestion for the original poster. I also happen to think that they sound awful. Like a really crappy toy drum set or the stock drum sounds in low-end e-drum kits. Got them on a nice deal recently, and I feel like I have totally wasted my money. Toontrack's Superior Drummer 2.0 is where it's at. Coming from that to Steven Slate was like going from a Martin D-28 to a plastic toy Ukelele with two strings. For unprocessed (or processed, or anything really), the best options are indeed either Toontrack's S2 or Fxpansion's BFD2. I'm a Toontrack fan myself, but YMMV.
  5. Thanks very much triplets. Yeah, that's what I was thinking for me. Just the two cores, and generally well utilized in everything I do. At this point, I figure 9.1.1 ain't broke for me, so I'm not going to fix it. Avoiding the Mainstage update, as well, as I didn't want to introduce inconsistencies or incompatibilities of any kind. But for everyone else out there, looks pretty stable, yes? BTW, I would have put a poll up with this, but for some reason I didn't see the option available.
  6. Hi everyone. I'm still on 9.1.1 (32-bit). Once I've got a really stable rig, I like to wait a bit on installing updates to see how things shake out. So what's the general verdict at this point on these two updates that have come out in quick succession? I see some problems being reported, but what's the general feeling? Worth the update to 9.1.3? Only to 9.1.2? Or do newly introduced problems outweigh any possible improvements? I should note that, for me, I'm sticking with 10.5.8 for my current set-up, as I have only a dual-core machine that won't benefit from going to 64-bit at this point. 9.1.1 has been really great and stable for me, and there are no glaring bugs I have a problem with. So I'm not really pushed to upgrade. But it would be useful to have general opinions here in one place for everyone. So what do you all think in general of the updates?
  7. Here's some dude demonstrating TouchOSC in Logic 9.1.2 on an iPhone 4:
  8. Then you'll want to check this thread: http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=52244
  9. It is crazy, and also untrue . Oh, please don't start with this again. He can go to the link and see for himself what his fellow Logic users have found. Also over at Gearslutz and in other places. Don't worry, you guys aren't alone. Several other plugs do the same thing, and even Safari 4 had a similar problem (though it looks like they might have fixed it with version 5 -- looks good so far).
  10. Just click "quote" in the upper right of the post you want to do it with, instead of the reply button. Gives you a reply button with the quote above ready to go. Then, if you want to do multiple quotes of the same quote, as I'm about to do, you can go up into the quote text and just add the quote and end-quote brackets you'll see up there where you like. No. 64-bit does require Snow Leopard. And that will then allow you to use all your RAM. However, as I pointed out, there's something called "Plogue Bidule". Google it or search for it on this site. That might solve your problem, since you use so many software instruments. Yes and no. David, who runs this site, and Fader8 and maybe Ski (two of the most knowledgeable moderators, have not upgraded to Snow Leopard yet. A big part of why is because 64-bit Logic is still in its infancy. Only a handful of 3rd party plugs work on it natively. The 32-bit bridge that Logic has to allow non-64-bit plugs to work in 64-bit mode is quite problematic, and it is only a temporary fix that is never going to be perfected. Here's a link to the plugs that are 64-bit. You'll see it's small: http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=52244 I'd check out Plogue Bidule if I were you.
  11. Absolutely, freezing is good, bouncing in place, and basically doing everything you can to conserve RAM usage in general. But you (the OP) are right, 8GB of RAM is quite a lot, and depending on your specific plugs, that should be more than enough. Of course, as Kent and Triplets are suggesting, in order to actually be able to use all 8GB (and get around the 32-bit 4GB application limit), you'd either have to upgrade to Snow Leopard and run Logic in 64-bit mode, or you'd have to make use of an application such as Plogue Bidule with 32-bit Logic. And I do think you're likely to see some real RAM usage improvement (either in 32-bit or 64-bit Logic) by looking at the results in that other thread. Turns out that merely cycling through different presets in certain plugs (including the Spectrasonics ones, apparently) takes up extra RAM without ever giving it back. So you could literally be running just ONE instance of a software instrument, but find yourself reaching your RAM limit and having Logic give you the warnings and then close. All as a result of just trying out different settings for a while. Do some experimenting in a new project. Find the plugs that you use that seem to be particular RAM hogs, and see what you can do to minimize this. See which ones seem to suck up RAM and not give it back, even when you close the instrument. That should definitely help. Then check to make sure that you're doing everything you can to actually access those 8GB of RAM that you have. If you're just running 32-bit Logic straight up, you pretty much might as well have only 4GB installed. Good luck! 8)
  12. You'll want to check out this thread: http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=48417&highlight= It looks like several 3rd party plugs are particularly bad for this sort of thing, and Omnisphere appears to be one of them. The thread started out with people thinking that it was a Logic 9 problem, and then through trial and error they began to realize that only certain plugs contributed to this issue. This realization comes at some point on page 3 or 4, Glenn from Spectrasonics gets involved, and it gets quite interesting. Also see this thread: http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=290073#290073 Best of luck to you! 8)
  13. Thanks for your relating your experience, chrishb. That's definitely one way to handle it. 8) Seems that the problem with Logic isn't Logic. It's running Logic 9.1.1 in Snow Leopard in 64-bit mode which just isn't quite ready for prime time (perhaps mostly because we all have piles of 3rd-party plugs that are still 32-bit, and the 32-bit bridge is a band-aid solution that is never going to work well). And the memory errors in Logic 9.1.1 in 32-bit mode involve a number of third-party plugins that aren't releasing their RAM properly. I'm no programmer, but this does nevertheless seem to be at least something an Apple issue in general, as Safari and Mail tend to do the same sorts of things, albeit more slowly, over a longer period of time. My suggestion for those of us who are diggin' L9 but don't have (or necessarily need) truly massive systems with at least double-digit GBs of RAM: stick with Logic 9.1.1 in 32-bit mode for now. And even stay on 10.5.8 if that's where you currently are. I know it's what David's doing. And I think Fader8? As for me, I'm very happy with 9.1.1 in 32-bit on 10.5.8 with my measly 3GB on my MBPro. Very powerful and stable. No memory concerns here.
  14. I think the point is that low levels of analog distortion can be very pleasing to most ears, and this doesn't come across as "noise". While similar amounts of digital distortion constitute something entirely different. So the people who were pushing things into the red in the analog realm for "saturation" purposes are not going to want to do the same thing in the digital realm -- at least not t produce the same effect. That said, I always thought that the main reason you always wanted to record as hot as possible in the analog realm was for purposes of proper gain-staging. You wanted that noise floor as low as possible, so you didn't bring too much noise up through compression, EQ, and adding gain further down the line. While it may be a good practice to stick with generally, in digital recording (especially 24 bit), this is no longer much of a real issue. FWIW, I generally try to keep things peaking around -6 dB on the way into Logic. If I want more analog saturation, I'll turn up the "gain" and turn down the "level" on my external pre (be it tube or solid state), before it gets to my converters and heads into the Mac.
  15. I've actually been very happy with my Alesis iO/26. 8 nice, very transparent pres. Seems to be great conversion. And easy to bypass the pres if you want by running an external pre into the insert, rather than the normal input of any given channel. Some people had trouble with reliability at first. But the drivers are great at this point, and the whole things seems pretty top-notch to me. I think you can get one now for $300-something US. Check it out: http://www.alesis.com/io26 It may be a bit hard to track down, as they've moved it to "Legacy Product" status. Either they're going to be coming out with a new version, or they figure the MultiMix and MasterControl options have essentially replaced it.
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