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Sure, it's easy! Select the track you want to automate, drop it into write and sit and wait hoping this feature is added in logic X. Your welcome. Matt

For the record Ive done the null tests on all the 32 bit float Daws (PT9 Native, Logic, Abelton) and other than a "Dither" sounding noise that was in the Abelton bounce they nulled to neg infinity... When you do the tests the Pan Law can make it difficult to test all this. I just did 12 track mixes with all stereo tracks and no panning on the faders, this way it yielded a stereo mix with no panning at the faders.. theres no way your gonna get a 48 bit fixed Daw to Null to Logic. MH

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Hey Ive had an odd problem from time to time with the ol EXS 24. SO I take a group of audiofiles to a buss. Run them into a audio channel and comp them down to a Stereo Pair. I notate the name of the file and delete it from the arrange. Then I create a new EXS instrument, hit edit and use "Load Multiple Samples" to add the Stereo Pair (Interleaved File from the audio files folder) to the sampler. So Now Id like to adjust the start time of the sample in the EXS. I view sample start and end, then click on "Show in sample editor" so I can drag the "blue line" front and back to change the times and the start time of the sample in the EXS still reads "0" The only way to make it work proper is to close my session open a blank session, create the instrument there and then go back to the other session pull the instrument up there and use it. The real weird thing is that it wont do this EVERY time. SOme time it operates without any issues at all. Anybody else see this from time to time.. Am I doing something wrong. Thanks MH

You can imagine how horrible that one sounds.. of course there is the air of a summers breaze to the high end. I Keed I Keed. On the subject of the ol 24 char file courption thing. I dont seem to be having as many issues with the long files names in L9.1. I have a client who loves to name his audio files things like.. "Kick Drum_make this bang like that Dre track where snoops is all Da Da Da Da and swingin his hair" I always had to rename b4 importing, but 9,1 seems to be able to handel em. Go figs Well If David and SKI dont have any anwsers for me here and I done RTFM like 49 times in 5 years.. Im gonna go and say im sunk like a battleship. I Was SOOO excited when I thought id figured this out... Damn Region to new audio file doing what its supposed to do and all. Why cant bugs work in my favor for once.. haha just playin. Matt

Hey All. I often find myself working in writing sessions in which an artist will be quickly putting down many tracks of vocals while building out an arrangement. trying to guess what the artist is going to do in order to name the tracks properly before hand so they are named properly in the audio file bin in impossible. If I dont name anything Logic names the Audio Files 'song_name'_audio 01.01.wav and so on. This is cool, but after the song is finished it leaves me with a bin full of files all named the same. What I'd like to end up with is files in the bin name after the track they reside. The catch is Ill be nameing the track AFTER the vocals have been recorded. I tried using the "Name regions by tracks" command and that renames the regions perfectly! problem is the Bin and Audio Files folder use audio file names and not region names (Of Course). Next I tried selecting all the Audio Files in the arrange and using the 'Convert to new Audio Files" Command. This renamed everything EXACTLY as I wanted it but there was a catch. It truncated any part of the audiofiles that were outside the used region borders in the arrange. So if I had crossfades, since the audio that was crossfading was no longer present the crossfaded edits began to pop, as well if I find a bad edit the next day I could no longer adjust the punch boundaries to fix it. Booo. Before you ask WHY I would want to go to all this trouble Ill explain. When Im working these writing session writers will be writing 3-5 songs in a day and a huge amount of audio is recorded. These songs get worked on session to session for a few days and then are ruffed and stored until needed or sold. If the song is call "New Tuesday song 1" when we start and "Douchmatic" after 24 hrs I would like to avoid a folder full of files either called "Vocal.xxxxx.wav" or "New Tuesday song 1.xxx.xxx.wav" to ease much confusion down the line. Anybody have a workflow that might work for me? Thanks in advance for your help. Matt

Hey All. I often find myself working in writing sessions in which an artist will be quickly putting down many tracks of vocals while building out an arrangement. trying to guess what the artist is going to do in order to name the tracks properly before hand so they are named properly in the audio file bin in impossible. If I dont name anything Logic names the Audio Files 'song_name'_audio 01.01.wav and so on. This is cool, but after the song is finished it leaves me with a bin full of files all named the same. What I'd like to end up with is files in the bin name after the track they reside. The catch is Ill be nameing the track AFTER the vocals have been recorded. I tried using the "Name regions by tracks" command and that renames the regions perfectly! problem is the Bin and Audio Files folder use audio file names and not region names (Of Course). Next I tried selecting all the Audio Files in the arrange and using the 'Convert to new Audio Files" Command. This renamed everything EXACTLY as I wanted it but there was a catch. It truncated any part of the audiofiles that were outside the used region borders in the arrange. So if I had crossfades, since the audio that was crossfading was no longer present the crossfaded edits began to pop, as well if I find a bad edit the next day I could no longer adjust the punch boundaries to fix it. Booo. Before you ask WHY I would want to go to all this trouble Ill explain. When Im working these writing session writers will be writing 3-5 songs in a day and a huge amount of audio is recorded. These songs get worked on session to session for a few days and then are ruffed and stored until needed or sold. If the song is call "New Tuesday song 1" when we start and "Douchmatic" after 24 hrs I would like to avoid a folder full of files either called "Vocal.xxxxx.wav" or "New Tuesday song 1.xxx.xxx.wav" to ease much confusion down the line. Anybody have a workflow that might work for me? Thanks in advance for your help. Matt

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Right It interleaves them as it adds them to the arrange. If I were the one adding them to the arrange this wouldn't be a problem. The issue here is since Im not CLA or Manny or Dave I cant be reject mixes simply because the client didnt export the files as consolidated wavs. The PT session are full of bad punches and edits and scrubbing thru and consolidating them before I begin mixing takes hours. So when I use an OMF or Pro Covert the Session simply exists in Logic the same way it did on PT.. except the Stereo files are now split onto multiple objects. Even If I did grab them from the audio Bin and drag them into the blank arrange since there often named "Loop.L.6.dup.2" and "Loop.R.6.dup.2" Logic cant figure it out and still splits them... Dig the problem? Thank you for agreeing that UTM OFF Mode is Lame tho. MH

Hello all, So I Run my shop off Logic 9.1 and as a mix guy I get a lot of sessions in as PT sessions. No Big Deal. In L8.0 and before I simply used an LE rig with Digitranslator to export an OMF, Flipped it over to Logic and I was off and Running. The problems with this were of course OMF does not include Region Muting, and since properly preparing a PT session for mix seems to be a dying art, almost all session come in Unconsolidated and full of Region Mutes. Enter SSL PRO Convert. While Pro Convert has its OWN set of issues, Pro Convert DOES include Region mutes. On a Whole it seems to do a much better job at converting the Sessions over to Logic for me. Niether include Track name or Panning but whatever Im starting a mix with the faders pulled to Null so I dont really care. Track Names would be nice but half the sessions come in named Audio 1, Audio 2, Audio 2.dup1 and so on so whatever still. Heres the problem. Stupid ProTools only works with Multi Mono Files and the production I get is mostly programing (R and B/Hip Hop) and those are Stereo Files. PT splits them but will play them back on a Stereo Fader. When they hit logic thier split onto 2 sepatate objects. I want them on a single fader as they were in PT and the only option seems to be To Fader Up The tracks, Pan and Offline bounce them to interleave them. I know there is a command in the audio bin to reconnect split stereo files but I does not seem to do anything in this case. So I tried to turn Off UTM to see if I could make the process any easier. As long as the pairs of files are on objects starting with an Odd number this seems to work.. But it feels kind of Kludgy and Logic begins to behave a little oddly in this mode. Little things like I can no longer name multiple objects at the same time while highlighted or when creating Aux Pairs it suddenly wont let me stereo connect them after awhile.. Just in general it feels like this mode is overlooked by the DeBuggers (ie US lol). Not to mention in stereo mode the number of busses is halved.. Anyway. My whole point here is... Is anyone here REALLY working with UTM off in 9.1? Im on Leopard... Any Snow Leos using it? Is your experience different than mine? Does anyone else feel like in Version 10 the the ability to turn UTM off will vanish (Speculation) And finally big one.. Is there an easier way to Pair these files onto a stereo track ? Please keep in mind that the pop stuff Im involved in can be huge trackouts.. like over 140 tracks.. (yes I know thats stupid but Im not producing this stuff.. Talk to Sweeds on that one hahaha) I really appreciate the help Guys Thanks MH

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OMF Import seems to be semi broken in L9.0.2 AS this is the frist version of 9 I attempted to use I cant say if this is a 9 thing in general or only in 9.0.2. PLeae before people get all up in arms, I realize that OMF is dodgey at best anyhow, but I had alarming success using it to transfer sessions out of PT and into Logic without having to consolidate all the audio beforehand. in 7 and 8 I would save a OMF from Pro Tools that "Linked" to the audio files, basically creating a OMF session document. Then i would create a Logic session at the same samplerate and Tempo, Then drop that Logic Session Doc in the same folder at the Protools session and OMF file (This is also where the PT Audio files folder resided) then you could import the OMF and the logic document would use the same audio files folder at the PT session, it pulled in the audio and everything was peachy. Now In 9.0.2 Logic cant seem to find the audio files to import. I have to locate every audio files as if its gone missing during th import process. In a 80+ channel mix, this Sux. I can open in L8 import and return to 9.0.2 to mix no prob.. and as long as this gets fixed before L8 will no longer run on the OS (Whenever that is) that Im good to go, Can anyone get 9.0.2 to import a Linked OMF of any sort. Im sure embedded works fine but Im trying to avoid having to do that as it destroys my current worklow. Thanks MH

Ive gotten the White Noise Blast twice, once in 8 (whatever the last version was) and once in 9.0.2 Both times it was seemingly recorded into a region, even tho It didnt appear in the Overview. In both cases, saving, quitting and reopening the session, which made Logic prompt me with a warning somthing like, a file contains damaged or invald header information, would you like to repair it. Clicking yes restored the region to its proper playback and the problem did not repeat it self. MH

Hey All! I seem to have missing or deleted post here... dunno how that happened... must not have hit post.. Any How.. About 4 hours ago I tried this test with Stylus RMX in PTLE and it failed in EXACTLY the same way. I will download Guru tomorrow and attempt to repeat same test.. The flamming and phasing DID drift over time and when the loop repeated it started the flam/phase pattern over again. I then took a moment a spoke to a man I have access to AT Spectrasonics. He was able to tell me 2 things. In older versions there WAS a bug in RMX that would cause the audio to playback early when run thru a bus in ProTools. This is believed to have been corrected in the newest version. He also said that IN LOGIC, the workflow they advise is to "BOUNCE" your loops out by soloing the channel (Slow/CPU saver) and offline bounce the channel. I was also told that there is NO WAY IN HELL that the "Host Sync" mode will phase null with the "Midi Mode" and the fact that it was not a full 1/16 note off was a testament to How Well it WAS working. The "Host Sync" mode is for auditioning loops only and as soon as you have one you like you are advised to switch it to "MIDI Mode" I realize that this is NOT Guru, and perhaps Guru Does or Does Not have this problem, but the Stylus RMX issue in both NOT SYSTEM related, and apparently not "Technically" a problem.. I WILL (as Electronathan already has) attempt to get Guru to do what your sayin tomorrow.. MH

Wow this is getting heated, but crazy.. Pro is correct in what hes saying. The big question is WHY. Break it down even Further.. Take a Stylus RMX (IF You Have it) and pull up a loop. Set it to host sync so it just loops along as logics sequencer plays with out needing a trigger note. Then DUPLICATE that entire track/object, drag the midi region out of Stylus RMX and into the arrange and disable host sync. Now the slices of the loops are being directly triggered by the midi notes in logics arrange on Instrument 2 and back on Instrument 1 the loop is looping along in stylus RMX's internal sequencer. Just playing both these loops together at the same time is more than enuff to hear that SOMTHING is WAY outta line here. Phasing Flamming galore. For fun I tried putting the Gain plug on both channels and flipping the phase.. Not even CLOSE to nulled. Thats a major problem right there. To try and rule out 3rd party issues here I took a Ultrabeat kit that contained 16 channels of only kick wav samples and have DISABLED all Modulation on all channels. I then drew a crazy assault of kicks all over the step sequencer and then duplicated this channel strip. After dragging the MIDI to the arrange and flipping the phase on Instrument This sis DID NOT provide the neg infinity value I was expecting. Not to mention that 2 kick in the loop 3 were flamming to the point where they didnt null at all. Whats goin on here? MH Just to make ure since my setups changed.. Dual 2.26 Quad Mac Pro. 6 Gig Ram, Logic 9.0.2, EuCon Artist series. Battery 3, Stylus RMX, Predititor, Blue, Waves, Uad 2 Quad Core, Apogee Symphony 32..10.5.8