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  1. Hey Guys, Following up on this reasonably old but fascinating thread - I can't find any evidence of anything coming out of this Jessie J dispute after the initial flurry of news, which leads me to the conclusion that either Mr Loomis wanted a bit of publicity (which he got) or he got a bit of money from Ms. J to drop his claim. Who knows. Anyway, more musical plagiarism news. This time Robin Thicke & Pharrell Williams v. The Marvin Gaye Estate. This isn't a new case but it just took an interesting turn with the judge ordering a trial by jury to decide the outcome: http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-29846755 eek!
  2. I just stumbled upon this (via Engadget) and thought I'd share - http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/magazine/diggin-in-the-carts
  3. Here in the UK there has been some hype around Christmas-themed commercials. In particular, one for the John Lewis department store in which an animation involving the story of 'the bear and the hare' is underscored by a cover of keane's "somewhere only we know" by Lily Allen (interestingly singer in one of the Logic Pro 9 demo songs). This has reached #1 in the charts. BBC radio 4 did a piece on how advertisers work music that is not necessarily Christmas themed to appear 'Christmassy', resulting in an example song (I don't feel like dancing by scissor sisters) re-worked in a Christmas theme. The result was broadcast on radio 4 and can be heard here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25324658 So, my point? Well, I am just trying to invoke a discussion on what elements constitute a Christmassy song. It seems that the BBC incorporated items such as a breathy female lead vocalist, staccato strings, bells, triangle and extended legato phrases.
  4. Continuing from this, I wonder what they will do when it comes to the next major update. Will it be a separate paid-for app called "Logic Pro XI" or continuing free updates to "Logic Pro X" ...up to now, there hasn't really been an example of a big app having a major version update in the mac app store.
  5. No mention of scoring to picture features/improvements in the official apple PR....has this disappeared? I'd be very surprised if it has. Maybe someone who is lucky enough not to be in work for the next 6 hours can give a quick review
  6. I'm about to start the logic pro XI rumours thread if you care to participate
  7. Agreed, rev....Ski and Redlogic definitely in the loop on that one It looks purty, can't wait to see it in action.
  8. just saw the announcement - had to run here and tell everyone how giddy I am!
  9. there is (was) a DV store about 5 mins walk from me. Poor guys.
  10. From this tour of his home studio, it appears that Mark Owen of Take That may be a logic user (at least for his new solo album): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22362913
  11. What's great about this song is it's just 2 chords - a great lesson in songwriting in my opinion
  12. Roll on December 31 2016/2030 (thank you for the probably incorrect information, Wikipedia) Certainly does make me go "hmmm...". What the hell is "spirit" anyway?! Sound-alikes are a completely different ball game to the "domino vs bright red chords" and "Down under vs kookaboora" situations as they are coming from the angle of "how can we completely rip off this entire piece and make it different enough so that we dont have to pay royalties to the original composer?". I know a lot of people make a living from this sort of thing but, to me, that is the worst form of plagiarism! I'd be interested to know the trade off in costs between commissioning someone to write a sound-alike and the costs in ensuring that it's ok legally against the cost of just using the original and paying the damned composer his/her royalty.
  13. Ouch, no, ski! I do not mean to consider a songwriter or composer's efforts immaterial. You hit on my definition of a melody in the wrong way. If my post comes across as me questioning the validity of copyright as a whole then it certainly wasnt intentional! The questions I am posing are most certainly "what is copyrightable" and, specifically, "at what point does a melody/rhythmic pattern/lyric/harmony or combinaton of all become a copy of something rather than something that is similar"? I refer to the current situation between these two artists as a case in point and was hoping it would spark discussion mainly around these points.
  14. I've just seen that the artist has placed a "mashup" of his melody, transposed up to match the Key of Domino and dubbed over Jessie J's song. You can hear that here: http://www.loomisandthelust.com/ (who's plagiarising now?!) Given that the melodies are only *similar* and not *the same*, do you think that this is more of a publicity stunt than a serious lawsuit?
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