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  1. Hi david managed to get midi triggering to work via your recommendation.. not sure why it wasn't working for me the first time round but all is good now with out changing the environment template for triggering the instruments via the mpc. Unfortunately the sync issue is still the same and i have noticed that once it cuts the sounds out it sometimes starts to leave them off even after i changed the settings back to no sync, thats on both the mpc and logic. And the only way to get them to work again is to open a new project. Note i don't need to reboot logic only open new project. I should mention that once in sync, sometimes, it has played the first note briefly before cutting out, this is only for a split second BTW. Also interestingly enough if plays the last note briefly when i press stop on the mpc also. I have also tried the manual sync on logic and found that this seems to work but only on the selected instrument track and it doesn't matter if all are highlighted and rec is on all. Also the tempo interpreter doesn't seem to change no matter what tempo the bpm is set to. The tempo seems to stay stationary on both manual and external sync.
  2. Hi David just tried the suggested set up and i am getting no joy, do remember trying before also and always found i had to change the environment in order for it to work for me. Am using logic 9.1.8 not that it should make a difference. Followed the steps exactly and it only plays the midi track thats highlighted in the mixer... have i missed something? Selected auto demix then changed midi channel on inspector for each track. Interestingly enough though when i put it into sync mode again the instrument stops playing just the same as with the different environment so i think it's same to say that the environment template hasn't caused the sync issue. Any ideas?
  3. Yeah thats right everything plays fine until the sync starts. I have changed the environment round in order to trigger the instruments as per the akai template link below. But i can't see way that would effect it considering it's playing ok until the point i sync it. http://www.akaipro.com/kb/article/1515
  4. Ok guys i have a issue with sync on logic. Am trying to use logic as a slave and sync it to my MPC3000. So i have sent midi tm out of the mpc to logic and selected synchronisation in logic and set it to receive MTC... All is good and logic receive MTC when i press play. But the problem is that i am using the MPC to trigger instruments in Logic and once i sync it it stops triggering the instruments so i get no sounds???? Whats going on is it not possible to do this? Answers that will not help me BTW are that i should have the MPC as a slave... I obviously wish to use the feel of the MPC over logic sequencer. Nor do i want to record the midi data as am intending to record the final audio coming from the instruments. So really i just wanna know why logic stops playing the instruments once synced? Do i need to use 2 midi ini's from the MPC? i have the outs for it but my sound card only has one midi input.
  5. Ok so i have tried your suggestion of pressing play and not record to see if there is any jitter and yes the jitter occurs as soon as i press play on logic. Interestingly enough once i stop play on logic the jitter goes away instantly.
  6. No MTC no sync simply triggering Audio Units as if there were external sound modules with midi. Works fine until the record has to take place then its hay wire. Funny thing is i have done this before on logic 8 and it worked fine but not in 9.1.8 for some strange reason.
  7. So everything's OK if you have a track that's record enabled. But everything gets jittery the moment you hit the record button? Theres no midi going into the MPC. No midi cable out being used on my audio interface. So it's just a midi out from my MPC going into the audio interface. Yes everything is ok when the record is enabled. Thats means that i can press record on each track so the red "R" is on and there is no problem what so ever. Yes everything goes jittery the moment i hit the record button on the transport bar. So to clarify when record play is active it goes jittery.
  8. The only thing I can think of is that you are using Auxes. Auxes incur PDC delays if you have latency inducing plugins on a bus/aux/output. You don't need to use an Aux anyway. Just delete the Aux, but still send to the same Bus from your soft synth track. Then set up another audio track, set that new audio track's input to that Bus, enable the audio track's input monitoring, and record from that audio track. This way, you will ensure PDC isn't messing with your timing (by avoiding the Aux). So, you'll have you'll two audio tracks - where the first (soft synth) track is sending to a Bus, and the second track is recording from that Bus. Thanks for the suggestion of just sending the instrument tracks outs as busses and than the audio tracks input as those busses, didn't think of that. I have done it this way but unfortunately am still have the same issues. I understand that the PDC delays will cause issues but it seems there not at fault here. Just to clarify it's only when i press record on logic's transport bar that the midi information is unstable. So if i arm the tracks first and and press play on my MPC it's fine but when i start the physical process of recording sound now thats when the problem occurs. The problem is on play back but it's on the record process as well. It goes without saying that what is played back as audio is only what is recorded as audio, faults and all.
  9. Under stood that your making the suggestion that i in-fact record the midi data into logic first but as said in my original post thats not what i am trying to achieve here nor is the method i am trying to follow, and further more i have never been confident that this preserves the original feel of the MPC3k. Please read my first post Thanks for your suggestions and i will read into the articles mentions. But the problem i am experiencing lies with Logic as it's triggering everything ok up until i hit the record button on the transport bar. That is to say all sounds are in time once the audio tracks are armed. The midi jitter they are referring to is being actived while playing in any situation, I.E. before it's bussed then recorded. Now i am not experiencing any noticeable jitter prior to pressing record, and if i am, due to it all coming of one machine, it's lining up fine (i.e. it's all going to be jittering to the same points anyway so doesn't matter, as i haven't got any other instruments not with jitter it's trying to line up with) . The jitter i am referring to makes the arrangement of of notes unusable it's so bad. (it's not just lagging) The same thing is also happening when i try to record that midi data on to logic (as you suggested) but again this is not what i am trying to do. Side note on recording the midi data, it's even worse when i try to record the midi data, and it places it in relevance to how it's being heard and trust me it's even messier at that point. In short if logic and the MPC are playing these sound fine, even when i am sending them to busses and then to audio tracks, then why is it loosing the plot when i hit the record button? Sure it may have jitter issue prior to this but as said am not trying to use anything outside of logic, sound wise, so it's not a big issue.
  10. That's what audio tracks on the arrange are for. Recording from an input - this is how I record from my drum machines all day long. You don't need an Aux to do that. Just set up an audio track on the arrange, set it's input(s) to the input(s) coming from your MPC, enable recording, and record. That's what audio tracks are for. You don't need to be sending any MIDI to a synth to record from an input onto an audio/arrange track. How are you monitoring your MPC? Software/input monitoring (via Logic)? Or hardware/direct monitoring? Thanks for reply and i do appreciate your interest in this problem but maybe i wasn't clear enough in my post. Just to cover the facts again. There are No sounds coming from my MPC or any external instrument. My Mpc is not transmitting anything but midi information and the sounds being heard are coming from logic instrument tracks. Setting a audio track to record inputs from my MPC is pointless if there are no sounds coming out of it. In a nutshell i am only using the MPC3000 as a sequencer in this case, and the unit that is generating the sounds is in fact logic. I am not using ANY sounds outside of logic. That is the drums keys bass and so on are all being generated within logic.
  11. Thanks for the reply, but unless am missing something recording the audio tracks without going via a aux bus isn't possible. I am trigger the sounds via a outboard sequencer so there isn't even any midi notes recorded on those instrument tracks, although again it would still be the same outcome. The only option i have for getting the tracks into audio without recording a input from the sound cards external outputs is to go via aux bus and then to assign that to the audio track.
  12. Ok so am using logic 9.1.8 and have currently been working on projects that required me to use my MPC as the sequencer. Easy enough to do so i have a number of instrumental songs right now that are using various instruments of logic. They all play back fine with no jitter i can notice. But here is the problem. I want to record the tracks to audio in order to mix and do a more intricate arrangement. I am using the method of bussing these instruments to there own aux channel then creating the same amount of audio tracks with a input from a aux channel. Now when i try to record these as audio is when the jitter starts, and it so noticeable it's unusable. For example arpeggiated instrument is all out of time the hi hats are off, as is kick is and so on, it's a big old mess. Same thing happens if i try to record the midi data from the mpc to the original instrument track also. Although this isn't the method i wish to use anyway. At the moment the only work around i have been able to do is by using Jackpilot to route the tracks into a old copy of harrison mixbus then put the audio wav's back into a new logic project. It works but very time consuming and a really disappointment considering logic has always be a joy to use up until now. Using the MPC as a slave isn't a option for me BTW . I wish to capture the feel of that particular tool. So i really need a way to achieve the recording of this audio without using another DAW if possible. Can anyone tell what maybe causing this issue and if it can be rectified. Many Thanks Matt
  13. Thanks for the info weeddigger, Just a point with regards to the compressor as a ducker, i have found that i don't really need to send the kick to a bus first. For example my kick is on audio 1 and my bass is on audio 2. If i put a compressor on the audio 2, bass, and feed the kick, audio 1, into the side chain it will trigger the compressor without playing the kick drum in the bass's track. I only wish this was the case with the ducker as it would make the whole process a lot quicker. Plus i tend to use the liquid mix over the logic comp, unfortunately you can't feed a track into the LM's side chain.
  14. For the sake of this thread i have just set up 1 bass-line track & one kick track in order to test out the ducker.
  15. hi Thanks for the info, i have tried this but, unfortunately same issue the kick still comes out of the duckers channel even when the bus i am sending from has no output.
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