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Wow! Awesome tip there again my friend.. I will use that for sure. You the man! Thanks again Smoke

Hello Jordi, Thanks for your help.. You have solved the issue im having (again).. Basically, with this Environment cabled this way, i was under the impression that ALL the VI tracks needed to be armed in order for them all to play back from my MPC. But you are right, they dont need to be and have tested and confirmed it works good now. Thanks for enlightening me :> Also, i am interested in recording the midi data from the MPC, but only AFTER i have finished with the song composition. So all i need to do for this is just move the cable going into the Channel Splitter and move it into the input notes object, and then arm all the tracks and the midi data will be recorded onto those tracks. Thanks so much for your help again Jordi! I really appreciate it. Smoke

Done. Sorry about that. Heres the new thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=106903 Thanks Smoke

Hello, Here is the background info: All of my Virtual Instruments are assigned a seperate MIDI channel. All of these need to be Record Armed simultaneously. The problem i have is that whenever i select a VI track (which is NOT the first Instrument) and start playing it (with my USB MIDI keyboard), it will play the first VI track instead (which is allocated to MIDI channel 1). Is there a workaround for this somehow? NOTE: When each VI track has its MIDI channel assigned to "ALL", it will work perfectly. Any help appreciated. Smoke (here is a screenshot to show you what i mean)

Hello again Jordi! I am so sorry for reporting back so late, a few things came up which put things on hold.. I tried doing what you said in the Environment, and you are right. It works beautifully that way. Thanks so much for this tip. I am experiencing a problem however: I have just bought myself a Korg Mini Controller USB Keyboard (Microkey 37) to use close to my screen. The problem is this --> If for example i have a few VI's on different tracks, if i play the keyboard it will only trigger the VI which is on the FIRST track (assigned to Midi channel 1) not the VI track which i have selected. Can you think of any workaround in the Environment for this problem? Is this happening because each VI has a different midi channel? Im not really 100% sure myself. Smoke

Like this: [attachment=0]Screen Shot 2014-04-24 at 11.32.16.png[/attachment] I'm Option-clicking the little output triangle on the monitor object labeled "To inst. 4" to bring up that pop-up menu you see in the image. This allows you to make connections from one layer to another. You don't necessarily need to put monitor objects after thTonel Splitter, That's just to make things clearer. J. Thanks a lot Jordi I am at work now, I will check it out tomorow . Thankyou

My current MIDI keyboard is a very old hammer action Technics SX-P30 (bought neally 20 years ago in 97/98 hahaha).. So no, it doesnt have USB unfortunately.. It may also be a good reason to upgrade one day soon, but i will miss it Either way, you have provided me with LOTS of information about all this, and i now can make an educated decision on which route to take and how midi controllers work etc. Im looking forward to setting this up. So thank you VERY much for that. Appreciate Smoke

Wow! Your really starting to make me excited now Jordi.. PLEASE educate me further my friend.. Exactly how would i go about making "direct connections in the environment" to bypass this problem altogether Thankyou Smoke

Since you're using Logic a a mere sound module (you don't record any MIDI in it) you could make direct connections in the environment and bypass this issue altogether. J. Hello Jordi! Should have been more clear.. Yes i am using it as a sound module, but i am also using it to monitor ADAT signals coming into Audio Channels, PLUS, using it as mixer to mix all these sources.. After the song is written from the MPC, i plan to press record in Logic to capture/write everything into Logic (for final mixing/editing of audio/archiving etc). So in effect i AM recording midi into it, right? (midi sequences from mpc) Therefore this issue will still remain UN-BYPASSABLE correct? Thanks Smoke

I see now.. Thanks for explaining that. Hmm, i checked out the link but i think your right it might get annoying, and plus i dont want to overcomplicate things too much. Hmm, i think your right.. Using a controller with a MIDI OUT port in my case will simplify things. However, its quite annoying when you are after a certain controller with certain minimum amount of knobs and no keys and the manufacturers only make it with a USB connection.. Because of this, i just may HAVE to upgrade my current 88 note controller to one with many knobs and keys and contain a midi out port. Smoke

Yes, i am experiencing this too.. I am sending different sequences (from my MPC) to different VI's. (using logic as a sound module). I know what you mean, its quite annoying having to always ARM them when they get disabled. I have been trying my best to just constantly keep an Audio Track selected, but its not easy sometimes you cant always do that. Smoke

Sorry Jordi, to clarify things more. I already do have an 88 note Midi keyboard connected to my MPC via MIDI. The midi controller i am talking about getting (Novation Launch Control) has 16 knobs on it and no keys. This is the controller i would like to use to control my VI's parameters.. (Now that i think of it, i actually would prefer it to be connected to my mac directly via USB, because that way, if i am just having a synth programming day - i wont need to turn on the MPC in order to use it ) Damn.. I wasn't expecting you to say that.. If i can kindly ask, what is the reason for this? Is it not possible to have TWO seperate Controllers sending data on one VI ?? Very interesting and good lateral thinking there.. (ps: nice vast swiss-army-type knowledge of different Apps! not bad.. lol) While i dont mind using this solution as a last resort (if i HAVE to), i would prefer not to. I am scared with all these connections that i might experience some midi latency and might slow it down. Also how i mentioned above about not having to power up the MPC if having a synth programming day only. Thankyou Smoke

Firstly, thanks for the Link to the post on assigning controllers. WOW! I didnt think it would be so easy to setup, i thought it would be much more tedious than that! Now that there will be no need to be "transforming" CC data to Fader Events (and vice versa), things are looking MUCH more simpler to pull off now! :>:> You see, i would love to do what you said (above) and plug the Midi controller straight into the MPC and do it that way, but there is a simple problem.. The Midi Controller i want to buy, only sends MIDI out of a USB connection (no physical midi output port) which my MPC will not accept, only Midi cables. So! Correct me if i am wrong but the simple solution to this would be to: 1) Plug this midi controller into my mac via USB and "Learn" Logic's VI's with the Controller's assignments 2) Somehow, assign the Midi Controller to send to one of my Unitor 8's Midi Out port which will be connected to my MPC.. (This way, all those CC's i transmit will ALSO be sent out to my MPC ) 3) When i play back my MPC, its going to play the VI's just how i tweaked the knobs on that Midi controller. Do you see any problem with me achieving # 2?? (it should be possible to do that in the Environment right?) If this is all possible, then my question/objective is all solved thanks to you . Thanks Smoke

Ok i just added my signature now. Re: the MPC. My one records it fine, i tried sending the transformed events out to the MPC and it recorded them no problem. (Im pretty sure all the MPCs do it though, otherwise they wouldnt make for very good sequencers when recording hardware synth tweaks into them with midi) Very interesting. Sorry but im very new to setting up controllers with software. Just briefly, how is it done? Which menu/screen in logic can you access this capability? Will the VI respond to CC's sent from my mpc too, OR will it only respond to the Midi Controller sending the CCs? This is sounding promising... :> Thanks Smoke

Hi Jordi I would love to be able to record as track automation in Logic, but it simply is not possible if i am not using Logic's sequencer at all. Only when you press "Play" in logic, the automation data will start working. In my case, Logic is just acting as a Sound Module and Mixer. My master sequencer (MPC) is running the show (Playing back the VI's). (** i know you probably think this is stupid/crazy/a waste of a program, but for me PERSONALLY, using a machine like the MPC to lay down/sequence tracks feels better**) As i mentioned above, the MPC will be the master sequencer (Logic not in 'play' mode, therefore cant use logic automation) . So it is very important that i can somehow record these knob movements (automation) into the MPC, in order for me to be able to play back the MPC with all these knob changes in tact throughout the song. I think i am half way there though! My only main problem is this: - How do i "Transform" the CC's (coming out of my MPC) back into "Fader Events" to control Logics Vi's ?? Ahh ok. i think i understand it better.. Maybe i will look for an option with no filter in order to transform ALL the fader events. I will try and read the Logic Documentation on it more. How did you know that Fader 2 25 corresponds with the Cuttoff knob though?? Oh very nice. Thankyou! And for all your help too. Smoke