trancekid Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 already posted this on GS and thought I might share this here too. I just opened a Logic 9 song in LX and something was weird so I tried to figure out what it is and found out that they somehow changed the behavior of the sends and busses. try the following: - create 1 instrument track and set it's output to bus 1 - create a send on that instrument track to bus 2 and insert any effect - (output of bus 1 and 2 both should go to Stereo Out 1-2 of course) - turn down the fader of bus 1 and you will realize that the effect will go down aswell which definitely did not happen in Logic 9 and before !!! If you know about that it might be helpful, but it definitely might mess up your pre-Logic X audio routings !!! I wonder if that is a feature or a bug !?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Pre or post fader sends? I've seen someone else mention that LPX (incorrectly) converted a pre-send into a post-send when loading an LP9 project, maybe this is the same thing..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I was able to reproduce. That sounds like a HUGE bug to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Pre or post fader sends? It shouldn't matter, we're not talking about moving the fader on the instrument channel strip here. But anyway pre-fader does work as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Confirmed. Huge bug it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 No wonder some reported their song sounding different in LPX: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trancekid Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 I don't know if that is a bug or a feature. If you think about it and keep it in mind for new projects created in LX it might be quite helpful. the thing is - it was different in all other versions of logic so depending on your audio routings opening old songs in LX might get really messy. something like a setting to toggle between the 2 modes would be much appreciated from my side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Pre or post fader sends? It shouldn't matter, we're not talking about moving the fader on the instrument channel strip here. Ah yes, I just tried it and see what you mean! Yeah, pre-fader is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I can't wrap my head around the possibility that this could be a feature? I mean, it goes against everything I've learned signal flow wise, and I'm not talking just about Logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I don't know if that is a bug or a feature. If you think about it and keep it in mind for new projects created in LX it might be quite helpful.the thing is - it was different in all other versions of logic so depending on your audio routings opening old songs in LX might get really messy. something like a setting to toggle between the 2 modes would be much appreciated from my side. No. This is a bug. Workaround. Pack Original track into a Track stack (folder). Everything works fine from now on You can flatten it if you want now and it will continue to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Wow cool workaround Eric - how did you discover it!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Something is malfunctioning with the internal routing. It seems as the first AUX is working as a Stack Track (folder). Creating a real one is somehow waking it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Well thanks for the workaround. I've sent a report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trancekid Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 how do you report bugs ? I never did that in 15+ years with logic, but this one definitely needs to be fixed ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 For this one I emailed the persons in charge directly, because it's a HUGE one. The official channel is http://www.apple.com/feedback/logic-pro.html - and yes, they DO read the feedback they receive. I will also move this thread in our Logic Pro X Bug Reports forum a little later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostmemories Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 It seems like the combination of routing a channel to an aux if treated like a new track stack folder that would include the send in the folder, so, changing the level of the bus is working like the master fader of the stack folder. Sure it's a bug, I can't imagine the problem on big session with lots of groups and sends using aux! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Apple is aware of the issue and working to resolve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostmemories Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I believe we will have a 10.0.2 very soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claesbjo Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 ouch this one is making it hard to start doing anything serious with LPX yet. I´m sure they will fix it soon enough though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ploki Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 ouch this one is making it hard to start doing anything serious with LPX yet. I´m sure they will fix it soon enough though This is actually holding me back as well. I always do stem-submixes on auxes and main and room submix separately. not to mention drums, they go from tracks to submixes to drum bus... 3 routes and each routes gain takes a toll, no way can I keep track of error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Fixed in 10.0.2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ploki Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 finally can be used for real projects cool that they're so fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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