MixWOLPH Three Goes Live!

[camillo jr]

A couple of days before the mix session I spend a few minutes on this:

Thanks for that run-down.

On the actual mix day I spend the first 5 minutes on the following:

Amazing that you can fit all of that in 5 minutes!

[fader8]

There's so much I want to do to certain parts of the track but I keep having to hold myself back because it would involve me utilising 3rd party stuff which unfortunately is a no-no for this project. Boo…saying that though, I might find that Logics plugs can do exactly what I have in mind so maybe the restrictions are a good thing.

It is! In the last 2 Mix workshops we did here, lot's of people discovered more about the capabilities of the built-in plugs for that very reason!

[camillo jr]

Yes, I never used Delay Designer before this project. Nice plug once you find your way around it.

[lagerfeldt]

There's so much I want to do to certain parts of the track but I keep having to hold myself back because it would involve me utilising 3rd party stuff which unfortunately is a no-no for this project. Boo…saying that though, I might find that Logics plugs can do exactly what I have in mind so maybe the restrictions are a good thing.

It is! In the last 2 Mix workshops we did here, lot's of people discovered more about the capabilities of the built-in plugs for that very reason!

It's amazing what you can do with just Logic's own plug-ins. With a little tweaking (and some cheating, i.e. using plug-ins not quite the way they're supposed to) you can do basically everything.

Just mixed a peak@#2 track on the Danish iTunes Top 10 for Sony Music, with plenty of stock plug-ins. Space Designer, Stereo Delay, Tape Delay, Channel EQ, Compressor (for sidechaining mostly, I admit), Bit Crusher, Auto Filter, etc.

[fbkaiser]

camillo jr,

in re your BlackJack image

I am sorry to see that you live in Canada where each citizen has the burden of deciding how to spend his own money. Here in America, the government does that for us. It's great!!!

Kaiser

[iStudio72]

Is it possible to have MP3 versions of the draft submissions?

I am running Logic Express and therefore don't have all the plug-ins needed to hear them properly

[fader8]

Is it possible to have MP3 versions of the draft submissions?

Forthcoming! I'm in the middle of moving my studio from the 3rd floor to the second, (bigger room, cooler, etc. glad I've had a strong intern here for a while, phew...) and I'm a couple of days from getting monitors fired up. As soon as that happens I'll bounce the projects to mp3 and they'll get posted.

[Pinknoise]

Hello everybody!
I'm thrilled to try out a mix and what I've heard so far is very inspiring
Waiting for my activation to download the files it would be my first complete mix ever...Good work everyone hope to learn a lot here!

[ruari]

Whoa… I've been away for a couple of weeks & I'm amazed to see some final submissions in already

I've still got to get my draft submission up here, I almost had it done but then I scrapped it & started again. I'm happier with the new one & I'm almost done with it, if I knuckle down I should have it up either later today or tomorrow.

I still haven't listened to anyone elses mixes yet as I want to get mine finished before I can get influenced by anyone elses.

Hold tight crew, it's almost here

[camillo jr]

I still haven't listened to anyone elses mixes yet as I want to get mine finished before I can get influenced by anyone elses.

I'm doing the opposite. I'm waiting till everyone has their Final Mix in so that I CAN be influenced!

[ruari]

I still haven't listened to anyone elses mixes yet as I want to get mine finished before I can get influenced by anyone elses.

I'm doing the opposite. I'm waiting till everyone has their Final Mix in so that I CAN be influenced!

I'll have a listen once my draft mix is in, then try & cherry pick the best ideas in the others & use them in mine. I didn't really make that distinction in my last post, so my first efforts are going to be all my own ideas & the final submission will be more of a team effort kind of thing.

[camillo jr]

Actually, your post made perfect sense and I'd be doing the same if it were my first draft. Looking forward to hearing yours!

[Eriksimon]

...may I selfisly suggest an amendment to the rules: a third "afterlife submission" version, in which you can use the feedback of your own final submission and the relevant techniques, visions, ideas and comments you may pick up in anyone else's final submission.

[camillo jr]

That would be cool for sure. Although the idea of "getting it right" within some limitations is also appealing. But since I already took 12 hours on my first mix and I don't know how many will go into the second some days or weeks later, I suppose any pretense at reality is moot.

Ok, I'll vote for the afterlife!

(But I'll still aim for a best second mix with as much pop reality and of course, glamour as possible.)

[camillo jr]

As my mixwolph folder fills up with everyone's mixes, I'm getting several mysterious .aiff files, usually very short (these ones sound like they're made up from random bits of audio in the project) like the ones that Logic sometimes creates during an open session and then deletes when you close the session.

They have names like this and seem to come in pairs:

MixWOLPH3_A.logic-f16m
MixWOLPH3_A.logic-f16s

MixWOLPH3_Camillo.logic-f16m
MixWOLPH3_Camillo.logic-f16s

They are appearing side by side with the song files, not in the audio folder. For some reason, these ones are not being deleted when I quit Logic. I'd like to get rid of them, just to reduce the clutter in that folder. Can I safely delete them all after I quit Logic?

[Eriksimon]

As my mixwolph folder fills up with everyone's mixes, I'm getting several mysterious .aiff files, usually very short (these ones sound like they're made up from random bits of audio in the project) like the ones that Logic sometimes creates during an open session and then deletes when you close the session.

They have names like this and seem to come in pairs:

MixWOLPH3_A.logic-f16m
MixWOLPH3_A.logic-f16s

MixWOLPH3_Camillo.logic-f16m
MixWOLPH3_Camillo.logic-f16s

They are appearing side by side with the song files, not in the audio folder. For some reason, these ones are not being deleted when I quit Logic. I'd like to get rid of them, just to reduce the clutter in that folder. Can I safely delete them all after I quit Logic?

First, I don't think you can safely delete them, no.

Yes, I have those too... I just listened to them in Quicklook, I'll try and identify where they are in my project, that should provide a clue... you could do the same...
My assumption is that they are (temporary) fade files? Related to the region inspector fade parameters? Can't make out where the s and m suffixes refer to though - it's not stereo and mono.

[David]

I'm getting several mysterious .aiff files (...) I'd like to get rid of them, just to reduce the clutter in that folder. Can I safely delete them all after I quit Logic?

Those are fade files. They are necessary to playback your project, however you can safely delete them at any time, even while your project is open if you want. Let me explain:

When you draw a fade in the Arrange area, the next time you press play, Logic quickly bounces that fade as an audio file, and puts it in one of those fade files. Depending on the number and size of those fades, this can take anywhere from a negligible amount of time (a few ms) to a long, long time (several minutes). Once the fade file is created, upon subsequent playbacks Logic uses them and can start playback immediately.

If you delete the fade file, then the next time you press play, Logic will look at the fades in the Arrange area and re-create the fade file, which again will take a certain amount of time.

Whether you decide to delete those fade files or keep them on your hard drive is entirely up to you. If they don't bother you, I would say don't touch them. If you want to clean up your hard drive and have a smaller project size, you can safely delete them. Your choice.

HTH.

[camillo jr]

Thanks for the clarification. I'll keep them.

[Eriksimon]

Thanks David, also from me!

[David]

You're welcome!