LogicControl22 wrote:Professionals will pay for great tools that make their JOBS easier.
LogicControl22 wrote:No, it isn't elitism. Running a real business in this field costs much more than $2000.
Rev. Juda$ Sleaze wrote:Apple already undercharge for their apps, because they know it will make people buy their computers. Seems like a successful strategy too.
LogicControl22 wrote:I would like it if we paid more and they updated things much much faster. And if they worked out every single kink. For example, how long have people been asking for an update to the multi instruments? How many times has it gotten pushed to the back?
LogicControl22 wrote:I don't know about other people, but I would be willing to pay more if there was a promise that apple would work tirelessly to make logic beat out cubase, protools and dp in cutting edge features (that work perfectly because they have been tested to death with the extra money I paid)
Rev. Juda$ Sleaze wrote:…If a premium DAW aimed soley at professional studios…
ruari wrote:Isn't that what SADiE is?
Sound On Sound wrote:When Studio Audio & Video went into administration in 2008, it looked, for a while, as if SADiE’s days were over...
LogicControl22 wrote:What it boils down to is that I'm just worried that I've mastered a product that isn't going to be getting the kind of updates that I would value.
LogicControl22 wrote:$2000 comment..I was kind of being facetious. Wouldn't make sense for them to charge 4 times more than steinberg, I know. I just wish, with little hope, that they would target more of their upgrades towards professionals in the tv and commercial scoring industries.
What it boils down to is that I'm just worried that I've mastered a product that isn't going to be getting the kind of updates that I would value.
orcasound wrote:I have to disagree. I think logic is definitely a pro program. In my opinion, the way the Loop browser and the browser window integrate with logic is way more pro then ProTools.
The situation is quite reverse – GarageBand is packed with some pro-like features that come for free with a Mac.
orcasound wrote:Ok, yes to confirm and compare apples to apples - yes the Apple Loops Utility is a bit clunky - and outdated... Its quite buggy, crashes and lot and for lack of a better term - doesn't work like you'd expect most of the time -
My comment regarding the way the Loops and Browser windows are integrated into Logic from the media window - still stands - It is night and day from what PT, DP and other DAWS offer - Getting media in and out - loops in and out of the arrangement window, imo - is second to none... at least amongst what I would consider to the pro DAWs on the market -
Granted some DAWs are focused on complete loop-ability - ... but i think in the end they are the ones that shake out to be more consumer-pro-sumer minded.
As a side note....
I think a lot of Logic users feel some inert need to distance themselves from GB as if to further claim their "pro app" status - I embrace GB - I think that its an excellent way for a younger generation to get into the audio recording field. At some point, as their interest and career progress, they'll see the obvious short comings of it as a pro app - and move to something that can take them to the next level. Apple unlike Avid - have the resources to produce apps like GB, iMovie, - for the folks that purchase their hardware - Avid doesn't have an "un-pro tools, or a semi-pro Tools - Not because they way to "stay" pro - they don't have it because - they can't incl free with their OS or hardware - ..... They released LE - but even thats gone now - and it was only a gateway to hopefully sell more software in the future.
I really don't think there is some underhanded attempt by Apple and Gerhard to morph the two... If Apple drops Logic - which is not going to happen - then it really is a shift in their marketing and direction. Theres no real reason for apple to morph or cripple Logic into a GB - when they already have ZGB included for free. They know full well that the Pro audio community won't bite,
I don't use GB - I'm teaching my kids to use it on the home macs and the iPads. - but in reality, if you've ever messed with GB - its pretty nifty.
Technology is moving fast and we can do more with less... There are folks out there that argue over analog and tape vs digital, gtr amp sims vs the real thing, analog synths vs VI.... etc etc. - the fact is - they can argue all they want and complain - but we are heading we we are heading - if the artist has the ears and the mix is good - ain't no one gonna sit there and listen the radio and say - thats a real studer - no thats a UAD-2 studer... I say lets trust the Logic guys in Deutschland, and try to embrace what they are about to bring to the table. We might not like change -or some of the new things - but lets try and stay open minded - before we go logic bashing. // All in all, Logic 9 was a very respectable release and they made a lot of headway- who knows, maybe we'll get a 9.2 before we get a 10.0 - either way, Its all good.
karp47 wrote:I think the reason there are so many "Hey you guyzzzz, howz do i make dis beat in da logiczzz?" guys is because it's so simple for them to get a free copy. With better copy protection these people aren't going to be using logic and eventually they will be sifted from the logic users pool.
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