Unresponsive Logic 9.1.x+10.7.x & 10.8.x [SOLVED in 10.8.3?]

[DaveRobinson]

ML reset these.
Disabled, gives much improvement on the desktop.

[callingclouds]

ML reset these.
Disabled, gives much improvement on the desktop.

Thanks for this tip! I've tried it and so far I haven't had any unresponsiveness, which is great, but I'll have to use Logic a bit more before I draw a conclusion. Hopefully this is what's caused the issues though!

[dan z]

Joy !

Thanx DaveRobinson, It helped immediately .

all that suffering in vain... My Hero }{

[Chrishollis]

Cab I just double check - its the mouse settings that are making the eq (and other plugins) unresponsive.

This was doing my head in today! Please tell me the solution is this simple!!

[hypnotik]

no improvements here

[dan z]

umm, happy too soon, as usual... /:
There was a big improvement earlier, and i could actually adjust the eq while the sequencer was playing, which i couldn't really do for a few days. now it's back to it's obnoxious self.
considering trying to roll back to SL over the weekend and see how that works out.

[pimpyabba]

Same here, but with OSX 10.8... Logic in 32 bit mode is trashed.. the realtime analyzer in Lin EQ causes everything to lock up, although logic keeps playing the music... GUI is SLLLOOOOWWWWW and at many times unresponsive... I didnt have this big of an issue in 10.7.x.. going to roll back one version at a time to see what issues clear up... looks like I might head to SL as well..

Off topic, but some of the other programs are also glitchy in 10.8 such as safari and word.. gui is slow from time to time..

2.4 ghz IC 2, 6 megs ram, 256 g SSD..

[Chrishollis]

I'm having exactly the same issue. Plugins will freeze, with no clicks responding, but the music will continue to play uninterrupted (even if I try to press stop!) this happens with most plugins even logic stock plugs with no 3rd party plugs being used.

It does it in both 32 and 64-bit. Was fine before ML upgrade.

Two things I've noticed seem to "interrupt" the freezing; force quitting the 32 bit bridge (in 64 bit mode) or holding down button on the logic app icon and choosing "arrange window".

An apple upgrade rendering apple software running apple plugins practically unusable? Really not good enough, apple.

[DaveRobinson]

I asked about this in earlier post.
What happens if you use "Low" resolution?. Can you use the same plugins? More?
Does Low resolution bypass the problem? While you wait for upgrades?
If you experienced any other issues before the upgrade, "bugs". are they still there, how is the rest of logic? Desktop?

Logic here hasn't had freeze for quite some time and i'm sure my problem was related to the major issue here,
it's was similar but not quite the same as some here.
The mouse tweak does improve the desktop here and "Fluff" eye candy like this just adds confusion.
First week on ML and i'm still resetting my personal prefs.

If you can bypass the issue by switching to low resolution that's what i'd do! while waiting for upgrade.
While waiting browse through this bugs and workarounds section and see "what's fixed" or still broken.
There's some great tutorials and help "hidden" in the contents of these posts.

If all goes pear shaped here, i'd reinstall ML again first.
Then if my second ML install failed, SL worked fine here.

Macs left behind 10.9 (Speculation) history.

http://lowendmac.com/ed/royal/12sr/os-x-10.9-speculation.html

Report bugs here.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/logicpro.html

[Chrishollis]

Will try low resolution and report back later today. Also have an apple support call scheduled. Can't actually work like this. So frustrating.

Thinking about it, the plugs that are causing the freezing do all seem to be plugins with some sort of moving graphic interface... (eq with analyser, sculpture, any 3rd party plugs with graphics like ez drummer, alchemy etc...)

[ferrero]

Hi Guys,

Having the same problem with 10.8 Logic seems unresponsive. At first I thought it was something glitchy in Logic or my plug-ins.

When I'm playing back a mix for example, I have Guitar Rig open and I try to lower the volume of Guitar Rig's out, and the GUI doesn't response. I thought maybe it was something glitchy with GR. So I disabled it and even sometimes when I try to enable or disable a Bus Send, it takes a while to register the click as if there was a lag.

I thought it might be because I didn't do a clean install, but realised that there seems to be a graphics lag even in Firefox, Chrome or other apps. Reading that others seem to have the same problem makes me think that we should be seeing 10.8.1 soon.

Nearly wanted to do a clean install, but having to reinstall every single app/plug-in I have would be a nightmare... sigh..

[ferrero]

FWIW, found this: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/41 ... 0&tstart=0

[DaveRobinson]

Theres a list here being compiled, add your problem plugins so others have a reference

http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=86047

Yeah there is big issues. While your machine is this way, take the time to send a detailed report to apple.
You might as well get some good out of the problem by helping the rest of the community.
Production machines stay stable!... Testing is a different ball game...
If you don't research well before upgrading you're asking for trouble...

Welcome to the forum

ML Frontline
http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=85906
Report bugs
http://www.apple.com/feedback/logicpro.html

[Chrishollis]

Ok - update...

It turns out the lag / unresponsiveness happens when ANY plugin is open while a session is playing back. Makes no difference whether the plugin is logic stock, 3rd party, whatever.

This morning I had to wait 2 mins after hitting 'stop' for playback to actually stop. This was while the logic HiPass plug was open. The same lag applies to ANY action - be it plugin or transport based - basically any mouse click or keyboard command.

Dave - I'm not sure how I run logic in low res mode? Any help would be appreciated.

Can I also say that while I understand the "if it ain't broke" school of thought on production / studio computers, I still think that it's insane for a professional who has spent thousands of pounds on high end software and hardware to be "to blame" for wanting to update their system. If I make the professional decision to upgrade my work environment (after research) then I should be able to do it with confidence!!!

[DaveRobinson]

Ok - update...

Dave - I'm not sure how I run logic in low res mode? Any help would be appreciated.

I don't have the problem here but try changing logics EQ Analyser from high to Low "bottom left of the EQ window".

10.8 is 1 week released, we all knew Hell would break out. Others would be happy.
All operating systems have bugs, Even the "if it ain't broke school" have bugs.
There's no blame. The way i see it, i bought my machine with SL and any bug fixes and updates are free.
I've booted into development releases and been presented with just a blank screen or a terminal prompt, its not a problem to me. I chose to test. A report to the developer usually saw the next release improve.
I understand this situation is different and i feel for users who have broken machines. Lets hope the fix comes quick..

[Chrishollis]

Ah yeah, done that. No change.

[hypnotik]

the fix should already be there, since this topic was created a long time ago...

[DaveRobinson]

The apple servers are working hard with users upgrading, most will be very pleased with there new os x.

It's my understanding that most of the 32 bit code is gone and whats left is emulated, (could be wrong)
Experience and history do show that the first upgrade won't fix all users problems anyway.

I hope you get your mac sorted soon and can get back to enjoying it again..

[DaveRobinson]

Simon Morrison wrote logic mlr-frontline
Hot tip:
activating Text to Speech functions and/or turning on Dictation in the Dictation & Speech System Preference panel may introduce audio artifacts (static, clicks and crackles) in Logic. Turn off both Text to Speech (all options) and Dictation before starting a Logic session. End..

Nice post, easy to miss, Thanks Simon, hope you don't mind my copy/paste here

Never use dictation here! can see it's using sound, it's defaults were off here, well worth checking out,

Bugs-Workarounds-score-p6 also CCT post link!

http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=44944

Thanks Guys!

Edit:
MBP17 single monitor here.
I can see the advantages of using a dual monitor system, but don't use it..
32bit_64bit code changes.

2 major updates SL Lion ML. This machine stops upgrading soon! no complaints.
The last time i used apple support (long time now) they helped.
Next OS X upgrade spoils the desktop I'm running now? backup!
BugsWorkaroundslp9 - logic "pro" history is amazing.

[Chrishollis]

Another update on this... I don't know if anyone else has noticed it, but the unresponsiveness only seems to "kick in" after a little while of using Logic? For example, I was working on a mastering session using only 2 plugins on one channel of audio this morning, and for around 10 minutes, everything was working perfectly, then with no warning and seemingly for no reason whatsoever, the unresponsiveness began. The only way I can get Logic to respond is by going down to the app icon, holding down the mouse button and choosing 'arrange window' - this seems to get Logic's attention and everything I'd previously been clicking on catches up in one go?!

I called Apple yesterday and was told that "Logic works fine with ML" and to uninstall my 3rd party plugins because even if they're not being used in the session, they could be causing Logic to freeze... They wouldn't discuss it any further with me unless I paid for a renewed applecare plan. Not great considering it's THEIR update that's caused this problem!