Tighter Bass lines

[Darren Burgos]

Tighter Bass lines

At lot of third party synthesizers have the ability to have their oscillators set to "re-trigger." In a real analog synthesizer when you press a key on it's keyboard, the oscillator is triggered at random positions along the waveform. Sometimes it's at the top of the cycle, sometimes it's at the bottom. You end up with a varied, more unpredictable sound. In modern dance music where the bass needs to be tight and hit the same way every time, re-starting the oscillator at the exact same position is vital. Many people are surprised to know that the ES2 synthesizer has re-trigger built in...it's just not called re-trigger, it's called "OSC Start."



The soft position restarts the waveform/oscillators at the zero crossing point, where as the hard position restarts at the highest point of the waveform. Try changing your bass or lead sounds to to either soft or hard and hear the difference. You'll go from a relatively sloppy sound to total tightness.

To learn more Electronic & Dance Music production techniques in Logic Pro, check out the Electronic & Dance Music Production in Logic Pro class I teach for Logic Pro Help.

[tharealdi]

Nice tip!

[midischool]

Great tip, ES2 is a powerful synth, really good instrument!

[Amit]

Super Tip. Thank you.

[Joe777]

Excellent tip thanks!

[Madgear]

Nice tip,thanks for sharing!

[I_Like_Organs]

This explains a lot actually, thanks so much for sharing

[Pat Noonan]

Thanks so much, gotta go mess with that now haha

[archiec]

thanks! very interesting. used it on sylenth but had no idea you could do it on ES2.

[m.bot]

I have a synth that I made in the ES2 and I'm almost happy with it but when I trigger the synth it starts soft and then gets loud but when I put it to "hard" it turns into a completely different sound that I do not desire. I've tried playing with the envelope parameters like attack sustain delay but it doesn't comes out the same i don't get that hard synth sound from the start.
How do you get something like that to sound tighter and when you trigger the sound it's loud rather than soft without changing the sound i already created?

Is it the oscillators or do I have to mix it in the vector routing???

IDK I am stumped..

Help a brotha out....please.

[WuzzyG]

Thanks really helpful advice

[tradesman]

nice one

[palermomean]

Thank for nice tip, it's really work.

[soundbase]

Great Tip!

[E-KL!PSE]

One thing to add to the Osc start function is of it's pitfalls. If you are using the ES2 in unison mode the will cause all the voices to be played at the same time, so essentially you will lose the desired effect of unison. Where the whole idea around unison is to randomize the phase of the oscillators while stacking a number of voices over the to to get a big fat sound.

[lagerfeldt]

Electronic & Dance Music Production in Logic Pro class I teach for Logic Pro Help.

Seems to be a 404?

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Another tip for getting a tighter bass is to use a good opto coupled compressor. The opto mode in Logic's compressor won't do the trick unfortunately, because it doesn't have the desired non-linear response of the real deal. The Waves Renaissance in opto mode will work very well, however.

As the gain reduction comes closer to zero, the release will slow down. This keeps the tail of the bass compressed and puts focus on the attack or impact of the bass, leading to a tighter sound.

[David]

Seems to be a 404?

Thanks for that - I just fixed the link - and picture as well.

Thanks also for adding to that tip!

[ArtyWilson]

Hey, Thanks for the tip on Tighter Bass Lines! .... it'll really help me.

[beeverz]

Love it.

[Lippeth]

I thought it meant real bass so I'm disappointed in a way, but I also do electronic from time to time so this was still vital advice. But I still say 'false advertising'.