Mainstage Tutorials -- When?

[carrmar]

I really don't want to have to sit down and figure out another software program out. Can somebody please help me (and every other Logic Pro suite user) by creating Mainstage tutorials? Please?

[carrmar]

Wow, that first sentence is hilarious...

[mmm42]

I really don't want to have to sit down and figure out another software program out. Can somebody please help me (and every other Logic Pro suite user) by creating Mainstage tutorials? Please?

If you have a USB MIDI keyboard: connect it, launch MainStage, select a template that you like and start playing The application also comes with a nice manual (good bathroom reading!).

[Hicksyfern]

I've found it to be pretty self-explanatory to be honest. Just have a fiddle - it's all pretty obvious really.

[carrmar]

I have done all of that. The problem is that I want to learn how to build templates myself.

The manual kind of sucks.

I want to see someone use the "layout" page and speed through the process of creating a template for live use with synths, drum pads, vocals, etc.

[Hicksyfern]

Like I said, just have a fiddle. It'll be quicker to do that than for someone to make a tutorial and for you to read it.

[carrmar]

Honestly, I get frustrated when people come onto the boards and tell me (when I have expressly said that I am not getting anything out of the manual) to read the manual. Whether or not you want one, I want a mainstage tutorial.

[carrmar]

...much love.

[ellis]

You might want to check out this new video tutorial:

http://www.zoom-in.com/products/apple/mainstage

There is a free sample lesson that you could check out first.

[Subtonic]

I get frustrated when people come on forums and essentially ask other people to do a Google search for them.

I don't know offhand of any tutorial resources for Mainstage other than the manual.

After some searching, there's one thing here, but it looks like an intro for something you'll have to buy.

http://www.zoom-in.com/tutorials/logic_ ... parameters

Looks like there is a full product for $59.

http://www.zoom-in.com/products/apple/mainstage

So, respectfully, whether or not you want to read the manual, that's all there is right now unless you buy that thing.

[Hicksyfern]

Sorry, but if you're not getting anything out of the manual, and you won't try and learn for yourself, you're basically asking someone to wipe your arse for you, and that's not likely to happen.

If you look at the presets (jazz, electronic, etc.) you can easily work out how to make your own. It really is easy.

Unless you're a retard.

Also, you could ask some more directed questions, instead of "how do I use MainStage", couldn't you?

[teamworkmammal]

here,

basically draw your hardware setup, then have mainstage "learn" all the buttons on your controller that youve drawn graphically. then create instruments, and have mainstage again 'learn' the key ranges that you want the instrument patch to sound on. then get used to talking in terms of concert level (patches always active) and set level (patches set on certain songs) and thats really it.

that'll be 29.95$

[carrmar]

Dude, you don't have to do a google search for me! You insult me by inferring that I haven't done that already.

I have read the manual and done google searches. There is very little information out there. When I am staring at the layout page, I don't find it "obvious" what I should be doing.

You guys really shouldn't be dickheads. If you feel like I am just another ignorant user who doesn't research, you are wrong. We all have ways of learning. For me, macprovideo worked like a charm in teaching me all sorts of Logic 8 ins and outs.

Why is it so ludicrous to want a Mainstage tutorial?

[carrmar]

Thank you to those who took the time to help me. This post is frustrating, but I'll take it for what its worth.

[B_Stone]

I really don't want to have to sit down and figure out another software program out. Can somebody please help me (and every other Logic Pro suite user) by creating Mainstage tutorials? Please?

Are you interested in using MS for software instruments or audio processing (like guitar or voice) or some of all those things?

I recommend you start using one of the templates that comes with MS. The layouts are pretty well suited to just about any needs.

The one think you may want to know right away is, how do you assign hardware knobs/faders. This is pretty simple.

• Click the button in the upper left of the MS window labeled "Layout"
• select any screen control in the workspace area (middle window of the screen) - try a knob
• In the layout inspector, click on the "Learn" button
• turn the knob or push the fader on your connected hardware device

note: as you move the hardware knob, the screen control should animate, showing that you are remote controlling it from the knob.

You can switch to FULL SCREEN or PERFORM modes to see how you'd use MainStage in live setting.

If you repeat the assignment process for all of the screen controls, you can do all kinds of things right from a keyboard or footcontrol. Such as switch patches, tweak synths, or stompbox and amp sim effects.

I know you are getting a lot of heat about RTFM. In general, I highly recommend it, but sometimes, its nice to tinker a bit first to figure out what you need to learn. Its not required that you read a manual cover-to-cover to get going.

I would write the folks at Mac Pro Video a letter letting them know you want video tutorials of MainStage. I'm frankly surprised they haven't released one yet. In general, I love their videos.. especially the ones for Logic's plug-ins.

Lastly, if you provide some specific questions about what you want to do with MainStage, you will get some good answers here.

[carrmar]

I have fiddled with Mainstage a bit since I posted this. Thank you for not being a dickhead.

Other people always assume that the person typing a request just needs to RTFM, but I already have. I just wanted to have a tutorial explaining any advanced features, for the love of God!

Frankly, I find Logic's environment to be more effective (and far more powerful) in building advanced instrument setups (which can be easily linked with cables) and channel strips, as well as the added features of arps, chord memorizers, advanced controlling options, etc.

Thanks for the input. Mainstage shows promise.

[B_Stone]

I have fiddled with Mainstage a bit since I posted this. Thank you for not being a dickhead.

Other people always assume that the person typing a request just needs to RTFM, but I already have. I just wanted to have a tutorial explaining any advanced features, for the love of God!

Frankly, I find Logic's environment to be more effective (and far more powerful) in building advanced instrument setups (which can be easily linked with cables) and channel strips, as well as the added features of arps, chord memorizers, advanced controlling options, etc.

Thanks for the input. Mainstage shows promise.

While that's all true, its actually easier to do most set type things in MS. The Floating split point features are not even available in Logic. Also, "Patches" are not available in Logic, so building them and switching to them requires too much work to make it intuitive or fast in Logic. That said, I too miss the more sophisticated processing and simple things like Arpeggiators. Also, the controller assignment features of MS are far easier to make use of for live performance than in Logic. In MS, each time you switch a patch, knobs can be re-mapped which is great. I means you don't need a LOT of knobs to get at the sounds for your performance. All and all, MS seems to be better suited to most live performance applications though.

[buzwah]

I found this on YouTube. It's not much but might be some help in understanding part of Main Stage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFvSIBae ... re=related

[ZDelay]

The Zoom In Online (ZIO) tutorials originate here: http://www.zoom-in.com/channels/musicaudio

There are several on Mainstage as well as several on both Logic Pro8 and STP. To get access to all of them you may have to register but registration is free.

EDIT: I just noticed, Subtonic pretty much pointed this out above. Anyway, the ZIO site seems to be growing and I know there's more on Mainstage since April.

[sam_squarewave]

I have some mainstage tutorials at http://www.audiopropellor.com . Hope you check them out. I have a series on using the loop back plugin, but you can learn quite a bit in that hour! Some people just like being 'taught' instead of reading - go figure!