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Postby Rounik » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:19 am

No problem at all!Glad you like it Monty
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Environment button to bypass multiple inserts

Postby joemCreativeType » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:21 pm

I''m having trouble with this. Your Logic file opens fine, but I'm trying to recreate that button in my Logic template. There doesn't seem to be a way to create a "button" in the environment. Is it maybe an "ornament"?

Furthermore, I'm unable to unpack the macro. I don't see a macro in your template. All I see is a button, with cables going up to the edge of the window and disappearing.

When I double click quickly on the button it just bypasses the inserts. It doesn't unpack.

Please help
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Postby kokobeware » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:49 pm

Is there a maximum amount of channels that the Ultimate Bypass button can be cabled to. It works fine until I cable up Audio 25, then the 1st slot of plugs stops bypassing but the other slots work fine even past Audio 25.
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Bypass all plugins at same time

Postby Franckten » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:01 pm

for me my solution is using a controler (Like Buton of my Axiom 49) at all the plug inserted on the CS have got got most plugins and thats all...
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Postby fader8 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:03 am

Here's a more efficient macro I did for myself that's designed to companion to its own channel strip. Rather than have all the transformers, it just has a single sysex fader that spits out all the bypass/unbypass messages for all 16 slots.

Just cable the macro's output to a channel strip. Check the Inst box if you're using it on an instrument channel.

If you want the cool button as shown in the pic, you can get it here:
http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=54853
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Postby shivermetimbers » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:49 am

Cool button ... lol

Nice find Fader, isn't amazing what some of Logic can do?

Based off David' original bypass envionment, we did all this back in jul '09. Wow how time flies. :?

Here is how it all progressed ...
http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=42590&highlight=ref

Ski even refined his version of the Mixer snapshot environment.


shivermetimbers wrote:
ski wrote:BTW, your "figure 2" is missing.

It's always been there on my comp screen, sometimes they don't show up like the avatars.
Ski,
New idea. What about SYSEX (not sex) to do some of these things?
[i]"...Note: SysEx faders can actually be used for any kind of MIDI event, making them handy
for sending ordered batches of messages, such as mixer or control panel snapshots—
with one click of the mouse."
:shock:
Oh the possibilities... Quick, someone tell me this won't work before I get a boner.
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Postby trozombo » Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:28 am

Snowdon wrote:Hello,

Is there a enviroment 'creating a macro tute' anywhere on this forum.

I am trying to duplicate both Ronnie eggs and Davids ' effects by pass templates', but i cant seem to work out the 'creating a macro' stage.

If someone could give the time to jot a down a step by step way of by-passing one channel strip having 5 effects on it ,I would greatly appreciate this.

This is driving me crazy and making feel stupid at the same time,not a good combination for productivity.

This is what I am doing as a basic template:

1 Create a new project.
2 Create a new track [1] and add 5 plugins on it.
3 Open the enviroment window showing the 'mixer'
4 Create a new monitor in the "New' pull down options list
5 Cable from the channel strip [1] into the monitor
6 'Option/Click on each plugin which mutes it and send the relevant information to the monitor.
7 Where to now? If I create a macro logic crashes.


Any advice would be gold.

Thanks


Excuse my total logic ignorance but when you say
create a new monitor in the new pull down options???
Im in logic 9 and cant see anything like it. Also cable the channel strip to monitor, how do I do this????also to create the macro ????
Thanks I really want to learn to do this, but im frustrated with my lack of logic terminology.
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Postby jordito » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:23 am

trozombo, you need to open the environment window first (Command+8 ).

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Postby trozombo » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:51 am

jordito wrote:trozombo, you need to open the environment window first (Command+8 ).

J.

yep realise soon after posting, but still couldnt get around this trick. Way out my league. After creating the monitor and cable it to the channel strip in question, I create the macro and logic ask to select the objects for the macro and thats it full stop for me. is there anyway I kind import david's template to a project fully developed?
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Postby jordito » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:01 am

trozombo wrote:is there anyway I kind import david's template to a project fully developed?


Yes. There are several ways to do it, you can import the layer, drag and drop between to projects, copy/paste....Check the manual for details.

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Postby camillo jr » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:37 pm

@Rounik

I've just ran this through it's paces and it works but I have some questions....

1) How do you get it to un-cable? I can do this but it's inconsistent and I'm not sure what I doing right or wrong. I Option-select the cable port and choose instrument two. But back in the arrange, who knows what may end up being selected or deselected. It seems random.

2 The bypass effect is working for audio tracks that I cable to it but any plug in the top slot always which remains active. Why is that?
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Postby trozombo » Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:47 pm

jordito wrote:
trozombo wrote:is there anyway I kind import david's template to a project fully developed?


Yes. There are several ways to do it, you can import the layer, drag and drop between to projects, copy/paste....Check the manual for details.

J.

wot should I drag and drop?, what should I import as layer or copy? the actual template? or the button within the project? Ta
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Postby camillo jr » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:03 pm

fader8 wrote:Here's a more efficient macro I did for myself that's designed to companion to its own channel strip. Rather than have all the transformers, it just has a single sysex fader that spits out all the bypass/unbypass messages for all 16 slots.

Just cable the macro's output to a channel strip. Check the Inst box if you're using it on an instrument channel.


Fader 8 I'm trying your bypass now. After I copy your macro, it remains connected to the original channel strip. If I Select Cable Destination for the copy, a red cable is revealed but I cannot select it to delete it nor can I reroute it. How do I re-cable the copies to a new channel strip?

EDIT:
Ok, got that part sorted. After checking, then unchecking Protect Positions and Hide Cables, the cable would allow re-routing. Who knows why. At least that part works now.

One thing is still not working righ...

How do you "check" the instrument box? Is there a modifier key involved? Nothing seems to work here. I'm presuming that having this checked will enable the macro to select only the inserts and not the instrument? In your song file this does work although I don't see the check mark. In my song file, it doesn't work and I can't access the check function. What am I missing?
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Postby shivermetimbers » Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:26 pm

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Postby camillo jr » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:02 pm

It is all pretty much functioning now. Turns out I don't actually need to see that check mark to be able to toggle the Instrument/Audio function for this macro. Just clicking in the blank space will toggle the setting and it's easy to test to see which one is operating by using the Enable button.

The check mark displays on Fader 8's channel strips but not on my own for some reason. Well, at this point, it's merely cosmetic. And it works. Thanks Fader8!
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Postby fader8 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:47 am

Hey cam,
Not sure why that check mark is buggy for you. Maybe it's the fader text that doesn't like Apple symbols? You could open that fader text and change that to a character and perhaps that will correct the behaviour.
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Postby camillo jr » Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:20 pm

Don't know either. I opened the fader text window a few times and the check mark was in there - and then it worked. Don't know what I did. Once I had one instance of that macro working by itself, I've added it to my template and imported it into a couple of songs. Works great. Thanks again.

@ trozombo

I just copied and pasted the macro between projects opened simultaneously. But I turned off Core Audio first to speed up the process.
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Postby noisecontrol » Wed May 04, 2011 3:06 pm

David wrote:Sure: first I inserted plug-ins on the channel strip, cabled the channel strip into a monitor and looked at the events created by bypassing the plug-ins. I know if I send those same events to the channel strip, it will bypass the plug-ins.

The button you're looking at is actually inside a macro. Open the environment and resize the macro a bit, then double-click it to unpack it.

You'll see a button cabled into 3 transformers, then into the channel strip.

The button generates one event: Fader #56, which is the insert bypass for the first slot.

The first transformer duplicates that event and adds 1 to the Fader #, bypassing the second slot.

The second transformer duplicates both events and adds 2, bypassing the third and forth slot.

The third transformer duplicates all 4 events and adds 4, bypassing slots 5 through 8.

And ... voila!!! 8)

Just wanted to say what a great post. This methodology can be applied to so many aspects of Logic :)
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Postby David » Wed May 04, 2011 9:55 pm

noisecontrol wrote:Just wanted to say what a great post. This methodology can be applied to so many aspects of Logic :)

Exactly! Especially any kind of environment programming. Glad it helped! :D
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Postby Pacifist_ » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:06 pm

Hey guys. A question regarding the fx bypass, and environment in general. Is it possible to only bypass the plugins of the selected channel strip? Sometimes I would like to hear the A/B against the mix, but not have dedicated controls for every channel strip, which can be overwhelming in a large project :roll: .

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