MixWOLPH Three Goes Live!

by **fader8** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:46 am

camillo jr wrote:I hear Soundtoys is gonna come up with a Region Spectral Cascade plug-in soon. No more artistic decisions regarding those pesky region colours!

I was a Sequoia user years ago and it had the Comparisonics feature that colored the waveforms based on their frequency prominence. Very handy for editing sometimes, actually.
http://www.comparisonics.com/color.html

by **camillo jr** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:56 am

lagerfeldt wrote: Fader8 thought that a tricky mix would be more interesting because there would be a lot to discuss during the process and afterward. And it is a tricky mix, so nobody should feel bad about the result.

Sooo many bits and bobs.... I keep finding stuff that I haven't actually "placed" in the mix yet. But this exercise has actually been a lot more fun than I thought it would be. (Reverend, the water's warm, jump right in!) In my wee business here I spend a lot of time making people sound way better than real life so it's a bit of a treat to mostly just mix and not fix.

lagerfeldt wrote:For anybody else: try to put yourself in the position of the artist. What did he intend with this song, i.e. what feeling is he trying to convey to the listener?

Good question! Not being a Danish speaker, every time I listen to the song, I keep hearing things that almost sound English....

"You told there they came to die
Then we feel sacked - we will save no men
McMaginol game assign
The virgin lips among they did say to send"

My wife speaks a bit of Danish and she says that the choruses are about saying goodbye and the bridge is about caring. But she's not really sure. So, no conscious word painting here, more just mood shaping.

lagerfeldt wrote:I hope people see this as a learning experience and a chance to see/hear how other people have solved things. Once everybody's turned in their mixes I'd be happy to listen, comment and participate in the discussion on the various solutions.

I look forward to that!

by **lagerfeldt** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:37 pm

camillo jr wrote:
lagerfeldt wrote:For anybody else: try to put yourself in the position of the artist. What did he intend with this song, i.e. what feeling is he trying to convey to the listener?

Good question! Not being a Danish speaker, every time I listen to the song, I keep hearing things that almost sound English....

"You told there they came to die
Then we feel sacked - we will save no men
McMaginol game assign
The virgin lips among they did say to send"

Heh heh. And your wife is right.

by **iStudio72** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:58 pm

OK, so i have set some initial levels for each track and found something i can live with.

Now...vocals......i have NO IDEA!! Never mixed vocals (as you can hear from my post on The Listening Booth board....no vocals on any of my tracks yet).

I've found what i take to be the lead vocal and stuck it dead centre, added a little tape echo and some verb then panned the high backing vocals way out left and right with the lower backing somewhere between the two. It's not exactly jumping out at me though and i have no knowledge of the tricks and techniques used in vocal mixing......all help welcome!!

by **camillo jr** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:12 pm

I have a question about levels at the output. Right now, I'm usually getting what you see in the screen shot below, with occasional peaks at 1.4 to 0.7 dB.

What's a good ballpark to aim for with this kind of material, in a pre-master context?

by **fader8** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:17 pm

camillo jr wrote:What's a good ballpark to aim for with this kind of material, in a pre-master context?

fader8 wrote:8. Your mix should peak at no higher than -3dBFS on the main mix outputs.

by **iStudio72** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:18 pm

camillo jr wrote:I have a question about levels at the output. Right now, I'm usually getting what you see in the screen shot below, with occasional peaks at 1.4 to 0.7 dB.

What's a good ballpark to aim for with this kind of material, in a pre-master context?

I have no idea but i think the rules of this exercise are it must stay below -3dB

by **camillo jr** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:46 pm

fader8 wrote:
camillo jr wrote:What's a good ballpark to aim for with this kind of material, in a pre-master context?

fader8 wrote:8. Your mix should peak at no higher than -3dBFS on the main mix outputs.

Right then! I guess now would be a good time to actually read the submission guidelines. :roll:

by **route-electrique** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:53 pm

This will be fun

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by **ruari** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:57 am

The two vocal regions on track 13 & 14 - are they meant to be there or can I move them to 15 & 16?

by **ChicoSatis** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:46 am

Hey all,

Haven't been here in a while so I'm not sure if this is just a snafu or something new I'm not aware of. I've been trying to upload my first mix in this forum but when I hit the NEW TOPIC button it tells me only moderators can add new post.

Anybody know what's up?

Thanks

by **ruari** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:54 am

ChicoSatis wrote:Hey all,

Haven't been here in a while so I'm not sure if this is just a snafu or something new I'm not aware of. I've been trying to upload my first mix in this forum but when I hit the NEW TOPIC button it tells me only moderators can add new post.

Anybody know what's up?

Thanks

Hi ChicoSatis

I get the same message if I click the New Topic button in this forum - I'm nowhere near getting a draft mix ready though. I'm juggling my time a little bit, so far I've got the intro sorted out but as soon as I get to bar 25 it sounds like a different song has started :shock:

I'm looking at least another couple of days before I have the draft maybe more.

Fader8 or one of the guys might unlock this forum for us when they realise we are stuck.

by **ChicoSatis** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:32 am

Thanks ruari.

I feel strangely better now.

HAve a good one.

by **camillo jr** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:36 am

I get the same thing so I just sent fader8 a PM about it.

ChicoSatis - long time no see! Looking forward to hearing your mix. This is the first Mixwolph I've participated in and even though this ain't my kind of music, I really enjoyed the exercise and had fun with it.

ruari - I kind of had the same feeling about the intro as you did but after awhile it all came together.

by **ChicoSatis** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:15 am

Hey camillo,

Thanks. Looking forward to hearing yours too. I do music more as a hobby now but I still peruse the forums. I just can't quit this place. :lol:

HAve a good one.

by **fader8** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:45 am

Thanks for the heads up on the moderator only posting limitation. I'll get a message out to David, (he's in France at the moment, but still around). We'll get it fixed so just be patient!

by **ChicoSatis** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:51 pm

Cool.

Thanks Fader.

by **iStudio72** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:31 pm

Aaaargh HELP!!!

There are two tracks of whispering in the Bridge Vox that have some really bad popping in them, how can i reduce that so i can raise the tracks up in my mix?

I have tried using a compressor but it doesn't seem to make much difference, still getting a leap of several dB...?

by **camillo jr** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:23 pm

I noticed that popping too. What I did was to make regions out the areas where the pops are happening and then select them and use the Gain setting in the Inspector to lower the volumes of the pops.

by **Eriksimon** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:00 pm

Just put on a (Apple) High Pass filter - reject everything below 200-400 Hz...?!

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