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Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Voltcontrol909 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:33 am

I've got an album I need to send out to the printing press but it exceeds 80 minutes. It doesn't fit on a disc and they require an actual audio disc. Anyone know of a solution?

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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Rev. Juda$ Sleaze » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:42 am

Double album.
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Voltcontrol909 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:49 am

It goes over by 3 minutes. I just found some 90 minute cds but dont know if this will cause burning issues for me and or issues for the printing press
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Rev. Juda$ Sleaze » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:05 am

That's interesting, Red Book standards state 79.8 minutes is the maximum playing time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_%28CD_standard%29

I can't help but think that removing 3 minutes of your album might be the easiest solution.
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Rev. Juda$ Sleaze » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:08 am

Voltcontrol909 wrote:I just found some 90 minute cds...


Wait, I just realised you're not talking about albums. Yeah, I wouldn't stray from Red Book standards, I've read that 90 minute CDs don't always play nice with CD players.
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Voltcontrol909 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:13 am

Thanks for your input
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Rev. Juda$ Sleaze » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:16 am

No worries, sorry you've got a difficult decision to make now :(
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby fader8 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:23 am

Voltcontrol909 wrote:It goes over by 3 minutes. I just found some 90 minute cds but dont know if this will cause burning issues for me and or issues for the printing press

Am I missing something? Why would the silkscreening folks care how long the CD is?
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Rev. Juda$ Sleaze » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:34 am

fader8 wrote:
Voltcontrol909 wrote:It goes over by 3 minutes. I just found some 90 minute cds but dont know if this will cause burning issues for me and or issues for the printing press

Am I missing something? Why would the silkscreening folks care how long the CD is?


Yeah, I did wonder that, but presumed the OP meant printing as in burning CDs.
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Voltcontrol909 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:42 pm

no silkscreening lol talking about CDs
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Jmando » Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:15 am

I think most, if not all, duping/replicating services have a 78 minute maximum and require a signed disclaimer stating they do not assume responsibility if you encounter any problems with playback due to the length of the program.
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby fader8 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:05 am

Jmando wrote:I think most, if not all, duping/replicating services have a 78 minute maximum and require a signed disclaimer stating they do not assume responsibility if you encounter any problems with playback due to the length of the program.

If you're working with a competent replication house, you can provide them with the DDP file set and they can advise whether they can create a reliable glass master from it. If it's a "duplication" service and you're providing them an audio CD you burned on your Mac, then you're taking a big risk.

But back on topic, either way you go, the method of printing on the CD will have no impact on this. Even if you're using a short-run house that uses laser or inkjet CD printers.
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Rev. Juda$ Sleaze » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:32 am

fader8 wrote:But back on topic, either way you go, the method of printing on the CD will have no impact on this. Even if you're using a short-run house that uses laser or inkjet CD printers.


Yeah, I don't think this was ever an issue for the OP, I think they just meant "printing" to mean burning the actual data on the CDs, not printing the image on the top of them... I think...
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby lagerfeldt » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:36 am

Data isn't burned, but pressed into a Compact Disc during replication.

Burning is only for CD-R and similar media, usually done at home or with very small runs (<500 copies or less) during duplication.
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Rev. Juda$ Sleaze » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:57 am

lagerfeldt wrote:Data isn't burned, but pressed into a Compact Disc during replication.


Ah, ok. This is what I presume the OP meant by "print" - to press the CDs.
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby lagerfeldt » Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:10 am

Yes, that's what I thought at least.

I wouldn't go beyond the (revised) Red Book specs, but I do have a couple of 81+ minutes discs in my collection.
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Rev. Juda$ Sleaze » Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:11 am

lagerfeldt wrote:Yes, that's what I thought at least.

I wouldn't go beyond the (revised) Red Book specs, but I do have a couple of 81+ minutes discs in my collection.


Interesting, no problems with them in any CD players?
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby lagerfeldt » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:26 am

No problems in my (very picky) Sony and less picky Denon. But I'm sure some players will cough and sputter - or more likely simply stop before the end.

One is the complete The Nutcracker ballet by Tchaikovsky on Philips Classics, from 1998. The pace is... uptempo... that's the only way they could fit the whole thing on a single CD.
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Re: Prepping a disc for Printing press(album exceeds 80 min)

Postby Rev. Juda$ Sleaze » Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:43 pm

lagerfeldt wrote:The pace is... uptempo... that's the only way they could fit the whole thing on a single CD.


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