Mastersonics Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Hi I'm the lead singer of a band and we use backup tracks but after 4 straight up gigs my voice could use some help lowering the pitch of the backup tracks half step to 430. We will tune our instruments to 430 as well. Is this even possible in Logic 9? I have all of the audio tracks Mixed & Mastered It will be perfect to just drop it half step and that's that. Could anyone please help me with this? I just need some guidance as to where to look in Logic. Next week I have 4 shows again and don't want to kill myself and my voice thanks, Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtees Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 you could use time and pitch machine found under the "factory" tab in the sample editor. Beware that this is destructive editing so make sure you make a copy of the original first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersonics Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 you could use time and pitch machine found under the "factory" tab in the sample editor. Beware that this is destructive editing so make sure you make a copy of the original first. Is there any other way or another software you recommend if Logic can't do it? thanks, Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Logic 9 has Varispeed. You can change the speed or drop the pitch & speed. So a week or two ago I needed to do this and I had to lower the pitch (which also lowered the speed) I bounced it out and the ran it again to speed it up without changing the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersonics Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) Logic 9 has Varispeed. You can change the speed or drop the pitch & speed. So a week or two ago I needed to do this and I had to lower the pitch (which also lowered the speed) I bounced it out and the ran it again to speed it up without changing the pitch. Awesome Avatar Shiver........ Is there a more straightforward approach? I'm asking because, I have 30 songs to change the pitch and would like to do it the fastest way possible. thanks, Charles Edited December 22, 2009 by Mastersonics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamalbensra Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Can I use logic 9 to arrange chords such as Gm7 or Am7, or other uncommon chords? Thanks. Kamal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersonics Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 Can I use logic 9 to arrange chords such as Gm7 or Am7, or other uncommon chords? Thanks. Kamal Hey Man Not to sound rude but I'm asking a very important question here. If you have questions about the same then cool but please do your own thread if you have a different question like the one you are asking. thanks, Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 You're asking for a straightforward approach for your very important question. jtees told you exactly what to do. It will take around ten minutes for the entire batch if you or your computer are slow. Problem solved, no ? Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtees Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 There is plenty of software out there that will be able to do want you want, such as ableton live, cubase, melodyne ect however Logic's pitch and time machine will be able to do it just as effectively. Remember Pitch and Time machine is destructive so there is no need to re-bounce the sessions again. This will save you a lot of time. Can I use logic 9 to arrange chords such as Gm7 or Am7, or other uncommon chords? Thanks. Kamal No... the only way I know this can be done is to use Celemony's new software/plugin DNA. http://www.celemony.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Hi I'm the lead singer of a band and we use backup tracks but after 4 straight up gigs my voice could use some help lowering the pitch of the backup tracks half step to 430. We will tune our instruments to 430 as well. Is this even possible in Logic 9? I have all of the audio tracks Mixed & Mastered It will be perfect to just drop it half step and that's that. Could anyone please help me with this? I just need some guidance as to where to look in Logic. Next week I have 4 shows again and don't want to kill myself and my voice thanks, Charles A half step down would be 415.3047,,, 430 is -39 or -40 cents. Just under a quartertone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete3006 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 The simplest way of doing this is with Garageband. 1. Load the track in to GB 2. Click CRTL - options (alt) and G keys and then click on the track. It will turn purple. 3. open the editor (looks like the scissors key on the left bottom) 4. Click "follow tempo and pitch" and move the slider to where you want it, it goes in semi tones 5. On the top toolbar select "Share" and export song to your HD or burn it on a CD All done. Takes about 1 minute to do. Hope this helps Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersonics Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 You're asking for a straightforward approach for your very important question. jtees told you exactly what to do. It will take around ten minutes for the entire batch if you or your computer are slow. Problem solved, no ? Christian Dude there's no need to be a Klugscheißer. cheers, Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersonics Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 Hi I'm the lead singer of a band and we use backup tracks but after 4 straight up gigs my voice could use some help lowering the pitch of the backup tracks half step to 430. We will tune our instruments to 430 as well. Is this even possible in Logic 9? I have all of the audio tracks Mixed & Mastered It will be perfect to just drop it half step and that's that. Could anyone please help me with this? I just need some guidance as to where to look in Logic. Next week I have 4 shows again and don't want to kill myself and my voice thanks, Charles A half step down would be 415.3047,,, 430 is -39 or -40 cents. Just under a quartertone. That's what I meant cheers, Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 You will need to dedicate some time (more than 10 min) to get things converted. Seems like too much trouble for a 1/2 step, but what a world of difference it will make. So you have multiple choices. Converting the songs to Apple Loops will give you even more flexibility in terms of changing tempo and Key after the fact. (OMG, another choice ) So save a copy, just in case, and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersonics Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 You will need to dedicate some time (more than 10 min) to get things converted. Seems like too much trouble for a 1/2 step, but what a world of difference it will make. So you have multiple choices. Converting the songs to Apple Loops will give you even more flexibility in terms of changing tempo and Key after the fact. (OMG, another choice ) So save a copy, just in case, and good luck. Shiver I will copy all of the songs into a new session. could you let me know the step by step procedure and which of the 2 pitch plugins would I need to use and how to set it up to which parameter? thanks a lot Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptdogg Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 on varispeed you should be able to change pitch without affecting the speed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 If it's only a 1/2 step, then the Pitch Shifter II should do it for you in LP8 or 9. Give it a try with one song and see what you think. I'm not clear on which version of Logic you're on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersonics Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 If it's only a 1/2 step, then the Pitch Shifter II should do it for you in LP8 or 9. Give it a try with one song and see what you think. I'm not clear on which version of Logic you're on. I'm trying but there are a lot of artifacts going on FYI I have the back up tracks on the left and on the right I have a click track for the drummer. thanks, Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Why exactly do you refuse to try the approach presented in post # 2 ? Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersonics Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 The simplest way of doing this is with Garageband. 1. Load the track in to GB 2. Click CRTL - options (alt) and G keys and then click on the track. It will turn purple. 3. open the editor (looks like the scissors key on the left bottom) 4. Click "follow tempo and pitch" and move the slider to where you want it, it goes in semi tones 5. On the top toolbar select "Share" and export song to your HD or burn it on a CD All done. Takes about 1 minute to do. Hope this helps Peter Hi Peter I tried and it sounds horrible with artifacts. You see my backup tracks have the actual music on the left side and the click track for the drummer on the right side. When I try to shift the song down it sounds WARBLY. Is there a fix for this? thanks for your help Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersonics Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 Why exactly do you refuse to try the approach presented in post # 2 ? Christian Christian I'm not refusing to use that method I just need guidance in how to do it, I tried and I can't select that option under the factory tab because it's grayed out. Could you please show me how? thanks, Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersonics Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 So how many cents I should lower the Time & Pitch machine to become half step? thanks, Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 100 cents = 1 semitone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fader8 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 So how many cents I should lower the Time & Pitch machine to become half step? thanks, Charles Charles, If you're tuning to A=430, then you don't want a full half step. Reduce it by 40 cents as Beer Moth suggested earlier. Yes, the Time & Pitch Machine is the best tool for this particular operation. Since you're changing it so little, there shouldn't be significant artifacts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I can't select that option under the factory tab because it's grayed out. Logic thinks it hasn't sufficient access privileges to the files. Assumnig that you don't try to process files on, say, a CD, or a server, the Jury is still out on whether that's a genuine bug or not, but they're currently favouring the former. First, check if access privileges of the files are ok and if they indeed are, Duplicate the files in Logic, then process with T&P. Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersonics Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 Just to be on the safe side What are the actual numbers that I have to input on the pitch thing to go down HALF STEP? Remember that my backup tracks is divided into Backup tracks on the left and Click track on the right. Do I have to input any other values? Maybe it's me but I still hear some artifacts Are those artifacts will go away once I bounce it? thanks again Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersonics Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 Sorry for the double post..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 100cent = 1 half step. Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 8) I bounced the original mp3 in place and a copy is now on trk 2. I used the settings shown on the trk 2 audio for Pitch and Time and processed it. Drag the Transposition to a value of -100, the Harmonic shift will follow. Make sure the harmonic shift box is checked. On the Original track (1) I put the PSII insert at the values shown. I OPT/Click the solo button for each and I can't hear a difference between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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