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Could I Change the Pitch of a Song in Logic 9?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:50 pm

Hi

I'm the lead singer of a band and we use backup tracks
but after 4 straight up gigs my voice could use some help
lowering the pitch of the backup tracks half step to 430.
We will tune our instruments to 430 as well.

Is this even possible in Logic 9?
I have all of the audio tracks Mixed & Mastered
It will be perfect to just drop it half step and that's that.

Could anyone please help me with this?
I just need some guidance as to where to look in Logic.


Next week I have 4 shows again and don't want to kill myself and my voice

thanks,
Charles
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:49 pm

you could use time and pitch machine found under the "factory" tab in the sample editor.

Beware that this is destructive editing so make sure you make a copy of the original first.
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Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:53 pm

jtees wrote:
you could use time and pitch machine found under the "factory" tab in the sample editor.

Beware that this is destructive editing so make sure you make a copy of the original first.



Is there any other way or another software you recommend if Logic can't do it?

thanks,
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Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:14 pm

Logic 9 has Varispeed.

You can change the speed or drop the pitch & speed.

So a week or two ago I needed to do this and I had to lower the pitch (which also lowered the speed) I bounced it out and the ran it again to speed it up without changing the pitch.
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Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:20 pm

shivermetimbers wrote:
Logic 9 has Varispeed.

You can change the speed or drop the pitch & speed.

So a week or two ago I needed to do this and I had to lower the pitch (which also lowered the speed) I bounced it out and the ran it again to speed it up without changing the pitch.



Awesome Avatar Shiver........

Is there a more straightforward approach?

I'm asking because,
I have 30 songs to change the pitch and would like to do it the fastest way possible.

thanks,
Charles
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Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:21 pm

Can I use logic 9 to arrange chords such as Gm7 or Am7, or other uncommon chords?

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Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:42 pm

kamalbensra wrote:
Can I use logic 9 to arrange chords such as Gm7 or Am7, or other uncommon chords?

Thanks.

Kamal



Hey Man

Not to sound rude but I'm asking a very important question here.
If you have questions about the same then cool
but please do your own thread if you have a different question like the one you are asking.

thanks,
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Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:09 am

You're asking for a straightforward approach for your very important question.

jtees told you exactly what to do. It will take around ten minutes for the entire batch if you or your computer are slow. Problem solved, no ?

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Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:36 am

There is plenty of software out there that will be able to do want you want, such as ableton live, cubase, melodyne ect however Logic's pitch and time machine will be able to do it just as effectively.

Remember Pitch and Time machine is destructive so there is no need to re-bounce the sessions again. This will save you a lot of time.

kamalbensra wrote:
Can I use logic 9 to arrange chords such as Gm7 or Am7, or other uncommon chords?

Thanks.

Kamal


No... the only way I know this can be done is to use Celemony's new software/plugin DNA.

http://www.celemony.com/
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Re: Could I Change the Pitch of a Song in Logic 9?

Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:16 am

Mastersonics wrote:
Hi

I'm the lead singer of a band and we use backup tracks
but after 4 straight up gigs my voice could use some help
lowering the pitch of the backup tracks half step to 430.
We will tune our instruments to 430 as well.

Is this even possible in Logic 9?
I have all of the audio tracks Mixed & Mastered
It will be perfect to just drop it half step and that's that.

Could anyone please help me with this?
I just need some guidance as to where to look in Logic.


Next week I have 4 shows again and don't want to kill myself and my voice

thanks,
Charles


A half step down would be 415.3047,,,

430 is -39 or -40 cents.
Just under a quartertone.
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Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:32 am

The simplest way of doing this is with Garageband.

1. Load the track in to GB
2. Click CRTL - options (alt) and G keys and then click on the track. It will turn purple.
3. open the editor (looks like the scissors key on the left bottom)
4. Click "follow tempo and pitch" and move the slider to where you want it, it goes in semi tones
5. On the top toolbar select "Share" and export song to your HD or burn it on a CD

All done. Takes about 1 minute to do.

Hope this helps

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Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:11 am

fuzzfilth wrote:
You're asking for a straightforward approach for your very important question.

jtees told you exactly what to do. It will take around ten minutes for the entire batch if you or your computer are slow. Problem solved, no ?

Christian



Dude there's no need to be a Klugscheißer. :lol:


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Re: Could I Change the Pitch of a Song in Logic 9?

Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:12 am

Beer Moth wrote:
Mastersonics wrote:
Hi

I'm the lead singer of a band and we use backup tracks
but after 4 straight up gigs my voice could use some help
lowering the pitch of the backup tracks half step to 430.
We will tune our instruments to 430 as well.

Is this even possible in Logic 9?
I have all of the audio tracks Mixed & Mastered
It will be perfect to just drop it half step and that's that.

Could anyone please help me with this?
I just need some guidance as to where to look in Logic.


Next week I have 4 shows again and don't want to kill myself and my voice

thanks,
Charles


A half step down would be 415.3047,,,

430 is -39 or -40 cents.
Just under a quartertone.








That's what I meant

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Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:42 am

:?

You will need to dedicate some time (more than 10 min) to get things converted.
Seems like too much trouble for a 1/2 step, but what a world of difference it will make.

So you have multiple choices.

Converting the songs to Apple Loops will give you even more flexibility in terms of changing tempo and Key after the fact. (OMG, another choice :lol: )

So save a copy, just in case, and good luck.
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Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:58 am

shivermetimbers wrote:
:?

You will need to dedicate some time (more than 10 min) to get things converted.
Seems like too much trouble for a 1/2 step, but what a world of difference it will make.

So you have multiple choices.

Converting the songs to Apple Loops will give you even more flexibility in terms of changing tempo and Key after the fact. (OMG, another choice :lol: )

So save a copy, just in case, and good luck.



Shiver

I will copy all of the songs into a new session.

could you let me know the step by step procedure and which of the 2 pitch plugins would I need to use and how to set it up to which parameter?

thanks a lot
Charles
 
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Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:00 am

on varispeed you should be able to change pitch without affecting the speed..
 
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Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:42 am

If it's only a 1/2 step, then the Pitch Shifter II should do it for you in LP8 or 9. Give it a try with one song and see what you think.

I'm not clear on which version of Logic you're on.
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Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:50 am

shivermetimbers wrote:
If it's only a 1/2 step, then the Pitch Shifter II should do it for you in LP8 or 9. Give it a try with one song and see what you think.

I'm not clear on which version of Logic you're on.



I'm trying but there are a lot of artifacts going on

FYI
I have the back up tracks on the left and on the right I have a click track for the drummer.

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Why exactly do you refuse to try the approach presented in post # 2 ?

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Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:01 am

pete3006 wrote:
The simplest way of doing this is with Garageband.

1. Load the track in to GB
2. Click CRTL - options (alt) and G keys and then click on the track. It will turn purple.
3. open the editor (looks like the scissors key on the left bottom)
4. Click "follow tempo and pitch" and move the slider to where you want it, it goes in semi tones
5. On the top toolbar select "Share" and export song to your HD or burn it on a CD

All done. Takes about 1 minute to do.

Hope this helps

Peter








Hi Peter

I tried and it sounds horrible with artifacts.

You see my backup tracks have the actual music on the left side and
the click track for the drummer on the right side.

When I try to shift the song down it sounds WARBLY.

Is there a fix for this?

thanks for your help
Charles