mb25976 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Hi everyone, I've been using Logic for doing post work for awhile now, and I've gotten my basic workflows down pretty well. There are a few areas I'm a little hazy on though; is there a good source document for maximizing and exploiting all of Logic's post-production capabilities? I'm looking for some in-depth discussion of using the tempo operations editor for tempo acceleration and deceleration, and how best to adapt these techniques to Logic's feature set. Thanks in advance, Mokolai Fire Snake Studios Orlando, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 I'm looking for some in-depth discussion of using the tempo operations editor for tempo acceleration and deceleration, and how best to adapt these techniques to Logic's feature set. I don't use the tempo operations window anymore, now that we have the global tracks. The Tempo, Marker and Beat Mapping tracks combined together should give you all the functionality you might need to create accelerandos and/or descelerandos in sync with your picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colnago89 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 www.macprovideo.com has a video "Logic for Video Editors". Never seen it, but if it is anything like Martin's other videos, I highly recommend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb25976 Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 I just checked out the Table of Contents for the MacProVideo installment - it looks to be just what I need - thanks a bunch. Moko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embrionic Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Martin Sitter "Logic for Video Editors" is quite good, like all the macprovideo.com titles, but it does NOT cover the topics you are looking for such as " in-depth discussion of using the tempo operations editor for tempo acceleration and deceleration". You should get it anyway, but it will not cover working with tempo changes to match compositions to video. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb25976 Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 Ok....so David says I can do all that I need w/ global tracks, while embrionic says that I'll need to do it the old-fashioned way. Embrionic, what in particular cannot be done with the usage of global tracks? Thanks, Moko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embrionic Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Hi Moko, No, I did not say that... I just said that if you wanted to learn to do it the way you suggested (tempo changes) that the training video (Martin Sitter's "Logic for Video Editing") does not cover that topic. Since I have that video I thought I would explain that it does not cover those topics. However, again, you should get the video anyway for all the other topics it covers. Excellent. You can see the table of contents here and notice that what you asked for is not covered in that video, nor is David's method either. http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/logicVideoEds#toc To sum up, BOTH ways will work in logic, NEITHER is covered in the macprovideo.com training video. Hope that helps clarify things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb25976 Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 Sorry for the confusion - I understand now. Is there a resource which explains both methods? Thanks, Mokolai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embrionic Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 SOS this month has a tutorial for using global tracks, but I think you have to pay for it and it seems to be about matching tempo to midi tracks, not video. Might be worth a look though. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may06/articles/logictech_0506.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Hey Mokolai. First learn to use the Global Tempo Track: Double click where you want to insert a tempo change, grab the segments to move the tempo changes in time, or to change the value of the tempos. Drag a node to create a tempo curve. Then learn to use the Global Beat Mapping Track with markers. When you work with movies, place the SPL on the scene cut where you want a new cue, create a marker without rounding and beat map to that marker. Each beat you map changes the tempo of the previously mapped beat. So always create little "buffer" tempo changes right before the actual tempo change you need to map. If that's all chinese, learn to use those functions I describe, try to do what you want and come back here and ask questions on the particular step that's causing you a problem and I'll try to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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