pkirst Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Hi, Just found this on LACIE's website: http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10489 It comes - I think - with two 250GB drives... Would that be an ideal solution for sample storage? In other words, is it as fast as an internal drive? Or is there a better solution? Thanks P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Yes, it's as fast as a two internal drive RAID 0 or 1. Keep in mind that the RAID 0, which is faster than a single drive, only offers half the reliability of a single drive. RAID 1, which is as fast as a single drive, offers twice the reliability of a single drive. However, the LaCie is too pricy. You can build a 1TB RAID 0 solution out of an enclosure such as this: http://cooldrives.stores.yahoo.net/dudralenfors.html and a couple of 500GB drives such as those: http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4551377 for less than the price of the 500GB LaCie. Think about it! PS: as far as reliability, I have had more luck with systems I build myself like the one I described, than with pre-built systems such as the LaCie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkirst Posted June 13, 2006 Author Share Posted June 13, 2006 Thanks for those two web links. Will get those drives instead. Would you recommedn RAID 0 to store your samples even though it is not as reliable? But then again, RAID 0 is as reliable as a single drive. Either it fails or it doesn't... Btw, how do you connect that drive to the G5 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 But then again, RAID 0 is as reliable as a single drive. Either it fails or it doesn't... No RAID 0 is half reliable as a single drive: one drive fails and the whole system goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Sorry had to go... let me explain. A two drive RAID 0 depends on the two drives. If one of the drives fails, the RAID fails and you lose your data. If the probability that one drive fails is p, then the probabity that both drives fails is 2p. So let's say there's 1 chance in 10 that your drive will fail within a year. That's 2 chances in 10 that the RAID will die within a year. On a RAID 1, you need both drives to fail for the RAID to fail. The probability that the RAID will fail is therefore p/2, or 1 chance in 20 that the drive will fail within the year. Anyway, RAID 0 is great for read-only applications such as sample libraries since you usually have the original DVDs and maybe a backup as well so the data itself isn't too sensitive, but you want the speed. The added benefit is also that now your logic songs will open much faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkfish Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 With that case that you posted a link to, can you just have the drives mount as their own individual drives. so it would just be two separate drives in 1 enclosure??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 That's my guess but it's a great question, something to ask the reseller before you buy. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to do a RAID! Please do your research before you buy, as this is just a suggestion, I have not actually used that product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkirst Posted June 13, 2006 Author Share Posted June 13, 2006 Thanks for all this - your posted links sound really good though... I might think of buying those and let you know how things are going... ALSO, how do you connect the drive to the MAC ? I never had such a drive... ---- ALSO, let's assume you ONLY want the drives to backup your projects. Would that be a too expensive solution? Would you recommend hot swappable slower drives (maybe Firewire drives)? Usually I never touch the project data once a project is mixed and mastered - sometimes there are 20GB or more per project to backup. I just want to store thosedrives in a shelf... --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkfish Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 pretty sure you use a SATA card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Yes, you need an eSATA PCI card. Those are really inexpensive though (about $50). Just make sure you get one compatible with Mac OS X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkirst Posted June 13, 2006 Author Share Posted June 13, 2006 ALSO, let's assume you ONLY want the drives to backup your projects. Would that be a too expensive solution? Would you recommend hot swappable slower drives (maybe Firewire drives)? Usually I never touch the project data once a project is mixed and mastered - sometimes there are 20GB or more per project to backup. I just want to store thosedrives in a shelf... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Archiving? If you only want to do archiving (vs backup, which is something you do every hour or so) and don't need blazing speed, firewire might be enough. It also offers the advantage of not needing the PCI card, so you can access the data from any firewire equipped computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobS Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Oldish topic but hate to start a new one since info is already here... David, in your opinion, if I have a Mac Pro with 4 internal 500gig drives, how would you best configure them? I was thinking of raid 1 - 2 drives each so 2 raid 1 - but that seems like a real waste of space. I was also considering raid 5, but I'm hearing it's rather slower. Right now I just have 4 separate drives: 1- system 2- audio files (this is where logic writes audio tracks to) 3- samples 4- photography (I use 2 external firewire drives for backup of internals) I was wondering if I went to raid 5 if I would gain anything besides the obvious failsafe the striping would give me, or would I lose performance and would it really matter. I would also get about 1.5TB of storage. The thing is that I'm always told keep the system drive separate from Logic for speed's sake... I can't decide what to give up Thanks in advance again. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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