| Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
majool
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 Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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Although not an entirely new feature, the need for Full PDC that actually works and also delays MIDI tracks without having to use the External instruments feature.
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Vankarius
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:45 am Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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| I'll second that |
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ging
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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| I totally agree. Maybe even have an instrument track that you can set up to specific outboard midi gear that would show up in the audio i/o and sends. |
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texdc
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:39 pm Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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| I'd like to have full PDC when using multiple auxes on the same bus, and when sending the output of one bus or aux to another bus. I'm starting to do complicated mixes, and these two issues are real buggers. |
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majool
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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| ging wrote: | | I totally agree. Maybe even have an instrument track that you can set up to specific outboard midi gear that would show up in the audio i/o and sends. |
You mean 'External Instruments' plug-in if I understand your request. This is possible. Supposedly it is 'the fix' for PDC problems and MIDI, although it becomes quite difficult to work that way on complex mixes that already have processing on them.
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DBS
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| Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:56 am Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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| Quote: | | You mean 'External Instruments' plug-in if I understand your request. This is possible. Supposedly it is 'the fix' for PDC problems and MIDI, although it becomes quite difficult to work that way on complex mixes that already have processing on them. |
If you use Logic's External Instrument-Plugin to route the audio outputs from the external MIDI device, the audio stream from the MIDI device is sadly not compensated during playback. 
But If you route the audio output from the external MIDI device to the input on the audio hardware and monitor them through the Logic Input Object, the audio stream from the MIDI device is compensated during playback. 
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majool
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| Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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Right, got my wires crossed. You're absolutely right.
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DBS
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| Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:39 pm Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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This makes the external instrument useless to me...  |
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gpiccolini
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:25 am Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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| yes, and bring sound diver back !!... beter yet: integrate it in Logic |
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quincyg
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| Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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gpiccolini
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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I think the PDC is backwards. Logic should read the processed tracks in advance to have time to calculate and make them sound in time... delay everything to match the pluggins latency is absurd and leads to lots of uncomfortable situations... the busses compensation also can be done reading in advance; altough a little more complicated still it´s the way it should be.
no chance to be heard I´m affraid  |
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majool
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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hope to god apple is paying attention and fixes this in 8, if there even is an 8.
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Vankarius
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:43 am Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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While they are at it to me it's vital that different audio devices with different mixers are compensated against each other (for example TDM mixer and Direct TDM mixer i.e. TDM and Native)
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majool
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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Doesn't seem like the new 'low latency mode' is a real fix.
Pretty bummed that apple didn't come up with a solution.
That said, they fixed just about everything else important I could have asked for.
I'm just surprised as this was on the top of the list for some time now!
Anybody else out there feel the same?
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josaka
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:33 am Post subject: : Full Plug-In Delay Compensation that works and Delays MIDI |
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| yes.. and the sound diver idea is good too. |
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