David Nahmani Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 This tip is easy to use, but a little advanced to understand. I'm going to explain first, and apply later. If you're getting lost trying to read the explanation, skip it and go right to the application, try it, and enjoy anyway! Goal To be able to have one or several alternate automation tracks for the same Audio Channel. Explanation In Logic, the automation is track based. It is not tied to a particular Audio Object other than the one currently assigned to that track. It is not tied to a particular Audio channel other than the one currently assigned to that Audio Object. Create several tracks, and assign them to different Audio Objects. Now each object will play back the Audio Regions with their own track automation. By assigning the same Audio channel to all those objects, you are now sending different automation data to the same Audio channel. The only thing left to do is to make sure only one of those audio object reads the automation on its track. That will be the currently read automation, the other tracks containing alternate automation data, available at the tip of your mouse. Application Go to Audio > Audio Mixer to open the Audio layer of your environment. Option-drag the first object, 'Audio 1', to make a copy. You now have two Audio objects assigned to the same audio channel, 'Track 1'. Name the copy 'Audio 1 alt' (for 'alternate'). Create two tracks. Assign one to 'Audio 1', the other to 'Audio 1 alt'. Create automation on 'Audio 1' and alternate automation on 'Audio 1 alt'. Now you can easily switch the automation modes between off and read to decide which automation track to send to the Track 1 channel. In the picture below, I turned off the automation on 'Audio 1' and set it to 'read' on 'Audio 1 alt' to read my alternate automation. So next time you want to try some alternate automation ideas on a track without losing the current automation, think of this tip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Very cool, David and actually easier than converting TBA to RBA and working up new RBA. They both have their place but I look forward to trying this out on a project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstone Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Having read this and looking at the pictures, (yes, i used to read phantom comics), I'm embarrassed to ask, but how do i display db's in automation data? Currrently i get dots, and a midi number whenever i move those dots. I'd rather see db's. Sorry for the simple question. (And David, many thanks for the key command info you've been giving. It's certainly sped up the workflow.) Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share Posted September 14, 2006 Select the track, and on the left, in the object parameter box, set 'Value as' to 'dB'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstone Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Thanks David, and my apologies for the simplistic question. Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjigga3000 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Nice application, of that, I don't think I would ever use that in the type of music I produce but it's definetly nice to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metacortex Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Brilliant TIP ..... this forum rules!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 yeah mate thats awesome! thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomatik13 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 SWEET! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark athe Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 top tip ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixmix Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Goal To be able to have one or several alternate automation tracks for the same Audio Channel. ... alternate automation ideas on a track without losing the current automation So then for example I can create a clean version of a song for a band whose singer is a potty-mouth. Instead of cloning the track and cutting it up, I can create an alternate automation track for muting certain explicits? Thank you Sensei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 4, 2008 Author Share Posted January 4, 2008 So then for example I can create a clean version of a song for a band whose singer is a potty-mouth. Instead of cloning the track and cutting it up, I can create an alternate automation track for muting certain explicits? Thank you Sensei Exactly! Although honestly for that particular use you may want to simply use cloned track, or even a cloned project if the mix is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djals Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Sweet tip David, does the same apply to software instrument/MIDI tracks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Edited February 7, 2014 by ski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankieDOS Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Great Tip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Great guys. Thanks for your comments. I'm glad some of you find it useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddeffects Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Thanks for this great tip, it makes working with Logic more easier..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psykayatwist Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Wow that's great !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 Thanks guys, glad to hear you like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanRace Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I think I get it so this is a handy way to A/B different automations without having to start all over each time you try something out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Another approach would be to create a new track (same channel strip) and draw a blank region on it that extends the length of the part or track. Then, use the function to move automation data to the region. Then mute the region. This clears the decks of the previous automation attempt but preserves it in case you want to go back to it. Then, try your second automation pass. If you like the new one better, delete that region you created. If you like the old pass better, either UNDO enough times to get back to where you were, or if that's not feasible (because you made other edits in the interim), delete all the "take 2" automation and then put the old automation back by using the function to move region data to track automation. HTH, Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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