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yeah i forgot to switch it, i'm using 8. but usually it switches itself when it opens the file. also the error message says it can't find the drive I'm using so i know it's set right in recording path. i'm going to have some more goes at it making sure to switch that first. thanks for helping me out

ok so i tried working with no external drive plugged in. just the duet and a mouse. first thing that happened when i hit record "recording drive not found" this is really starting to ruin my week and my whole rig is almost useless. what's my next troubleshooting step? bring this post back to logic forum?

yo thanks for responding. this makes sense. David's advice makes more sense now too, i recorded to the internal but i still had other drives connected. i wish i could daisy chain the duet. i'm gonna try just having duet and mouse plugged in while recording and see what happens. The glyph shows back up after i unplug everything, reset pram and then plug it in firewire. so it makes sense that the usb bus is f$@%ing things up. The drive freezes even without logic open. Usually when i'm doing a finder operation like copying something into that drive. that's when the pinwheel happens. thanks again i'll post the results. i hate the idea of cutting tracks to my internal laptop drive.

i'm using a black macbook with 3 gigs of ram, a duet , a mic, an external glyph on USB and a Kensington Trackball. First of all there are pops/clicks in the audio i'm recording, I noticed on a trip around the googles a lot of people have had these problems but there doesn't seem to be a solution. Does anyone have any ideas on this? I can't use those tracks or trust any new ones. Second, I'm having mysterious problems with my Glyph freezing up and then not mounting and then mounting an hour later after turing it on and off a million times and trying different cables and sequences of powering on and off. I sent the drive back to the company twice and they're pretty sure the drive is fine, and sent me a new one the second time. Also while recording I started getting errors when hitting record that said drive couldn't be found and then when the browser dialog came up it was right there and all I had to do was enter. Was happening a lot. David suggested trying the internal drive so I copied the session there and the problem persisted. Now I'm noticing when I unplug the Duet my screen goes grey and the finder restarts with a new desktop and no apps open. I think all the problems are related to the apogee and maybe that it's bus powered or something. does anyone have any helpful info? Is it logic or duet? or my computer?

what's that? i trashed them and rebooted.

UPDATE : the problem persisted when i recorded to internal like david suggested. now logic is freezing my computer. this hasn't happened to me since like os 9 so it's not usb or firewire drive related? or why did it start happening out of no where?

logic 8, macbook, duet, not outside plugins, korg microkontrol, duet, sm57, glyph drive

yeah i tried different songs it's happening on both. but more frequent in one than the other. i'll see what happens when i use a fresh session. AND if it's a corrupted song file what are the steps to fix the file. and how does a song fie get corrupted? david, i'll try recording to my internal (which makes me cringe), but what's wrong with usb. forgive me if that's a dumb question. i only have 1 firewire port for my duet, and had a buddy who used to swear by using usb to trouble shoot firewire drives. i also noticed while recording in a different project today that the files i was recording were ending up in the project folder instead of the audio files folder. and i haven't changed any preferences or settings since i last worked on this song. then the record drive not found thing happened again and it automatically found the right folder again, but i still had to move the misplaced audio files. thanks for the help

Hi I searched and searched and haven't found anyone with this problem. I tried the basic trouble shooting techniques too. What's happening is I'm recording to a Glyph drive via USB because my Duet is using my firewire port in my macbook. I'm recording a take and then undoing it then recording again. Every 5 or so times that I hit record a warning pops up that says drive not found. Then I hit ok and a dialogue window pops up with the audio files folder I'm using and asks me if this is my desired destination. DUH it is. I hit enter and it starts recording. Does anyone know how to fix this or why this is happening?? Also I'm getting what sounds like syncing failure pops and distortion every once in a while. I haven't searched this yet. And then the damn thing wouldn't let me save sometimes. what the buck? I'm pretty sure this is not user error. I hope it is though. thanks

first of all u don't wanna work with primadonnas u should work in a factory or on a construction site and not a creative field. but.. primadonnas in the studio or not i prefer to remain the professional. which means keeping my mouth shut unless i'm asked my technical or creative opinion. (but not in internet forums hahaha) second of all do you realize some people pay over a thousand dollars per day to work in recording studios? can't do it with logic 8. bottom line. i'd be politely explaining the "limits of my studio" all day and lose all my biz. at least here in nyc. this is work, not every recording is inspirational and engineers don't get points on records. honestly i'm sorry to keep bantering i'm just waiting for someone to post a response to the poster that makes me say "aaah logic does rule and it's not user error" cus i feel for the original poster. i almost don't want to record any audio at all the more i talk about pro tools doing it without headaches. user error is not part this equation. and studio etiquette has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. apple is supposed to make things fool proof. if Logic could make recording and working with audio as "logical" as it's midi end they would have a real powerhouse. every other sequencer i've worked with takes audio very seriously.. as it should. some features are very cool and quick like how u can select a track and hit record and it will automatically record enable.. that's quick and cool. from that point on it stresses me out. it's such a musical and beautiful program.. i wish it could just go that extra mile! which shouldn't be extra i always said that i need to spend some time in a pro studio with a power user in a pro session to take some notes and pick up some tips on how to make it flow when it's ON THE CLOCK. i wanted to see how these comps and punches and takes were handled and what the standard procedures were. the first time i assisted a big time session, the engineer really opened my eyes on procedures in punching in and the absolute FASTEST and most ORGANIZED way to do punches and recordings while HIGH paying clients were cutting. I was blown away by how much faster he could get things done and how POLITE he was. he didn't say ANYTHING!!!! his value as an engineer was how fast and TRANSPARENT he could operate.. like he wasn't even there. just the producer and the artist.. he just made it happen.. that is the engineer's job. so there was my first big lesson. I was asked to record when he was stuck in traffic one day.. i was able to apply what i learned in the prior days and was very fast and precise. I was thanked by the band (multiplatinum) and taken out to dinner. the real payoff though was now i knew how the PROS did it. quiet, fast, precise, fool proof, no questions asked. invaluable information that even smaller clients would appreciate. WAY more than a polite explanation of why they shouldn't try something. i want the Logic equivalent. free from digidesign's chains i think the reason this hasn't happened yet (learning from a logic pro) is because it's not professional in this use and people aren't using it to track audio in the big studios. again i love this software, but it's not pro recording software. it's strictly a production tool for me to write with. for electronic musicians and movie scores i'm sure it's a dream the other awesome thing about logic and audio (not being sarcastic) is mixing. if i get a pro tools session to mix i export the audio to logic and mix.. SOOO much easier to mix with logic when you're in the box. punch and rec features need to be brought up to par with the rest of the amazing features and plug ins this software has to offer.

just to clear up and add to my sarcastic rant. when i punch in a word or a drum part. it is UN NOTICEABLE or "professional" so the technical issues you speak of explaining diplomatically to clients, my perfect cyborg brain can not understand. i assume they'd be something very polite like "excuse me, mr. fiddy cent, i know you just told me to punch in and out on those two words, but can i just take a moment to explain to you how difficult that is for my pointer finger? also, it might not sound natural fiddy. instead let's try..." that's how you lose your job, and/or reputation. and once again they're PAYING for THEIR music to be recorded PROFESSIONALLY.. when you're opinion on their recording matters to them, you will receive a PRODUCER AGREEMENT and more RESPECT. PLEASE just agree that playlists and working comps/punches would be up to par!!!! are we really disputing this?

hahah the blatency threshold. i have mine set real high as to not limit my self confidence too much

Actually, it's not. I'm not a professional studio engineer... You seriously bow to your clients like that? I'd NEVER take that s#!+ in my businesss. I know a few pro engineers and they wouldn't roll over like that either. I guess it depends on the attitude of the 'artist' you're recording and on your own attitude towards your clients... oh man do you NEVER roll over like that? and your know some engineers too? wow. who else do you know? every time i enter a studio i bow to everyone in the room so yes technically i do bow to my clients like that. Do you and your pro engineer friends also not "pander" to producers, songwriters, vocal coaches, a&r etc. who want that extra take? or just the low life incapable "artists" that can't play because they want to try that alternate outro? Do they give you extra points for refusing to hit record? please accept that people punch drum parts and single syllables everyday. even on "good" records. and that there's a good reason for this thread other than egos. to discuss a technical issue with software. there are also a lot of good reasons to do these punches that have plenty of musical and artistic integrity. if you seriously are so strictly performance based, why use a computer at all? get yourself some nice mics, an otari/tascam/studer, the perfect musicians (the funk brothers preferably) and plant a money tree right in the middle of the lounge for ambiance. otherwise for modern worlders alternate takes with different and sometimes complex punches are absolutely KEY and totally common in EVERYDAY circumstances of the recording process. it's true there are little inexpensive roland boxes with 100 alternate takes. i find that i want the playlist option in so many different instances not just for complicated drum punches and alternate parts. but even just for simple vocal ideas when recording with rappers who try and discard ideas within seconds and want to hear it back immediately. for this type of work logic really can stress me out.. that being said, if i am being paid for engineering work. i can not rely on Logic 8. it's sad but very true. sorry rob and others. it is a dream to work with in my personal time and i create all of my music in logic at home. but when i get called to work NO WAY. if one of those little distortion bursts or overload messages occurred or i can't reach for a new playlist immediately i will get laughed out the studio. and yes i'm talking major projects with major sometimes very intimidating clients who have no patience. the thought of telling these types of clients "no i refuse to punch that word because you should just learn how to rap tighter and have all your ideas together" well that's just crazy talk my friend. sorry in advance for the sarcasm rob i don't even know ya it's just funny.. the hypocrisy and snobbery of it all. like imagine telling suge knight you're not punchin pac in cus he's just too sloppy for your standards. or tell chad smith his idea should've been demoed before he asked to try that fill. the audacity!

the punch glitch is totally a problem and the fact that this thread is a discussion on a work around is a problem in itself. punching a multi channel drum part is totally not uncommon and happens undetectable all the time. i've done it in pro tools and so have thousands of "engineers" i'm sure. a lot of mainstream albums are totally edited to hi hell in terms of drums.. bad or good i'm not touching on but it is VERY common to punch drum sections.. the "tail end" problem is the same with any instrument just gotta be playing along before the punch. that being said the punch in and out works for me haha. i guess i'm lucky? i just do it right over the audio, it makes a comp and i immediately flatten the comp being that comps don't work right either also to the guy who said he prefers to not cater to the artist this or that. dude that's totally your job... if i'm the artist and i want to punch in one cymbal hit and i'm paying you, please just punch the hit or you're fired. i have found after switching to logic as my main sequencer that i love it. the only thing i still can't grasp is why the protools-like playlists haven't been adopted yet. it just makes too much sense and the way logic does it now is cumbersome. can't wait till the comp feature works right

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