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Jen, this looks absolutely brilliant! A godsend )) I can't wait to try it! I hope there's a way to keep everybody informed about its progress. Mike

You may have said it many times, Tigermaster, but you're misinformed. You are correct, we're in the digital domain...but as an example, why are there "good" virtual mastering packages and "crappy" ones? Because they look different? No. I heard the argument once: "If you put a sine wave into Logic, and a sine wave into Cubase they will sound identical". Well, yes...and when the music you make is comprised of a single sine wave then all the DAW's will sound exactly the same. Just as Logic's compressor sounds different than Cubase's compressor, so too does each DAW have a different "Audio Engine", and make different amounts of spacious-sounding headroom available. Just off the top of my head I know for sure that Cubase sounds different from Logic. And when I bothered to ask the developers of different DAW's they confirmed that. ProTools applies slight multiband compression to the sum. Cubase applies a LOAD of it, and you can hear the difference. All of them do. It's known as their "Audio Engine". So the same exact stems, placed into both programs will sound different at the master bus. In the studio, I find that I need to notch out so many small frequencies when using Logic, sometimes I even need to put two EQ's on the same channel because Logic doesn't soften as much of the midrange transients as Cubase does. Using Cubase: MOST of the time the only EQ that's ever needed is taking the low bass freq's out. It is obvious when you listen, that cubase definitely squashes the known "horror frequencies" such as any sudden transients in the 2k range.

This happened with an earlier version of Logic and it's back with the latest update 9.1.5 ! Play the song, and as it's playing, open a plugin window. On my system, said plugin window will be "frozen" the window itself won't move, its knobs won't move and the whole program: transport and everything, will be unresponsive for a good 15-20 seconds. There are a lot of people posting about this at apple but in my experience it'll take literally years before an issue is addressed. (it actually took a year before a fix was issued the first time this started happening. EVERY TIME I start a project in Logic there's always something, man. Any insight or a fix much appreciated. The fix is NOT "plugin delay compensation or buffersize" by the way. My fix will be the same as it's been for 5 years (yes that long): Cubase, I'm coming home, lol. But if you know a fix, help would be great thanks. Mike

I thought the chord track was only for SHOWING the chords being used. One simple click on the 'Analyze' button just destroyed (PERMANENTLY) a very valuable performance. I can't see a way to disengage the chord track's changes. Is there a way to kill the chord track and to get back the music that was there before pressing 'Analyze' ?

This is the most ridiculous discussion I've seen so far!!! LMAO!!! Guys, please...the solution is to CONTACT APPLE NOW. Tell them their own drum machine does exactly the WRONG thing with drum samples: it cuts the attack off from them!!! It's hysterical! It's not a 'Feature', dudes... it's a BUG. Please report it as a BUG, so that in an update, it will be FIXED. Logic is Filled with a lot of other (very EXPENSIVE) bugs such as this. It's the only drum machine in the world that would cut the attack off from a drum sound. It's one of the reasons I'm so disgusted with this app with every version. There's always a big bunch of such upsetting stuff like this.

I've owned Logic and Cubase for 12 years. I Love them both. the reason I criticize Logic so much is because it COULD BE so much more powerful. I don't want to buy Recycle. Steinberg learned that, so they built something easier and more powerful than recycle right into Cubase's audio editor. I don't want to buy Melodyne. Steinberg learned that too, so they built something a lot more powerful and easy to use (and so f*ing cool) right into Cubase's audio editor. I want to put Reaktor onto a MIDI track and have Reaktor transmit MIDI to another instrument. Steinberg learned that so they let me do it with Cubase. I want to instantly and non-destructvely stretch and transpose audio on the fly. Steinberg learned that, so they put that into Cubase. What has always ticked me off about Logic's developers is that they are being begged by their users for 12 YEARS for all of these things. Logic knows you want it. 12 years we've waited (and gave them Billions(yes, Billions with a 'B') in buying upgrades. We now have the stretching of audio. But each time you stretch it, the file itself is copied. "Buy ReCycle" , No Midi routing, no fluidity of Audio. Editing of only one MIDI region at one time. Who is laughing when I send this company another $300 for the next upgrade? I'm not. I mean...if I had 6 million people sending me $300 every year... would it be that hard to hire --how many? -- TWO PROGRAMMERS?? to stick these features into Logic.

Funny you ask that. When ReCycle was first released, LogicPro users started asking for a slicing feature in Logic (version3). When Acid was first released, LogicPro (version4) users started asking for realtime pitch/time shifting. When Reaktor started transmitting MIDI, LogicPro(version 5) users started asking that other plugins be able to receive midi internally. Other MIDI plugins were suggested as well. Simply put: ten years later version 7 gave us the 'Apple Loop'. Nice to have caught on to the ReCycle concept now that it's 14 years old. I have bought every version of Logic since version 4. The only reason I've bought the upgrades is because I'd assumed this company actually read and saw what was going on in the world. Or maybe paid attention to thousands of users asking for the same things for 12 years. Version 9? Don't hold your breath.

Excellent point.

Why would it get removed ?

WAIT! Before you put your wishes in: Ever notice that Logic never does the feature suggestions anyway? ::laughs:: 1. NO MORE APPLE LOOPS. Use real time stretching, even with audio that was not recorded with Logic. (and please...the 'time and pitch machine LOOKS really cool, but it is horribly not usable). 2. BOUNCE AUDIO ONTO A TRACK. Logic is the last remaining DAW on earth that doesn't render audio ONTO A TRACK in the song. It hides the audio in the Bin, forces you to find it, create a new track, and move it manually to its original record position. 3. If a track is named "Vocals 1" or "Reverb Bus", it should be known by that name in EVERY menu in the project. I don't think we need one track to have 2 different names in the arrangement, and still a third name in the drop down menus. ( "reverb bus" a.k.a "aux 4" a.k.a. "bus8" )

Hi everyone. I just joined, but I've been using Logic since version 4. Audio in this world is now officially "fluid", which means it's even more impossible for me to make decisions. SO! My new musical friends, you could help me with my odd idea. Please, in 10 words or fewer, just write ANYTHING. I will 'divine' an interpretation from it and you'll help me decide what my decision is. I was about to tell you what the decision is, but I won't. Thanks in advance.