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  1. Super pumped.. I hope everything works the way it is supposed to now. It's a little bittersweet as I've been all-in on Studio One for the past 5+ months and love it after 12 years with Logic. I hope Lagerfeldt chimes in.. would be curious to get his thoughts.
  2. I'll keep using Logic for the current project but I should be fully transitioned over to Studio One 5 in about a month I hope. I'll be checking back here after updates and whenever Logic Pro 11 comes out.
  3. Sounds like a straightforward process to me. Do you do everything in the box? Or if you use any I/O is it all on the Mix Bus? Most of the artists I work with leave lots of decision making and tone shaping to be dealt with in the mixing phase.. so occasionally I use heavy processing (or outboard gear) before bouncing in place to keep cpu as low as possible. I used to have a ton of buses, primarily for parallel processing, but now I tend to duplicate tracks, apply compression/etc., BIP and then move on to the next task. My template used to have a ton of plugins turned off and ready to go but now my template is mostly blank except for routing and I have everything saved as a channel preset for when it's needed. Occasionally Logic won't start when a plugin component is out of date and I feel better off just not having unused plugins sitting in a project. Thanks for the insight about your process, I'm always on the hunt for any ideas on how to make my process more manageable but still effective. Logic always seems to have features that I haven't fully utilized (or even knew existed in some cases) that have the potential to simplify and speed things up.
  4. David, First let me say that I'm grateful for all the support and tips you've given on here over the years! There's not a lot of places to have great in depth discussions about Logic. If you have time I'd love to learn more about your song workflow. I've been using Logic for 15 years and I'm reconsidering my approach.. which swings from an overcomplicated signal flow of "multi-busses," to bouncing every plugin decision in place, to just starting with a blank template. I've considered having multiple sessions per song (one for the drums, vocals, guitars, etc.) based on things I've read on this site but wanted to hear more from you and your perspective due to the level of expertise you have. Everyone has their personal taste/needs/preferences but I'm confident that I'll learn a lot from your approach. Thanks in advance!
  5. I'm going to start a new thread about workflow but in case anyone else gets here with the same problem I never really figured out the timing issue.. at least not in a reliable way. I manually nudged all the vocal tracks back into time knowing that the original issue was still unfixed and has the potential to keep misaligning vocals as the project goes through the revision process with the client. I'll post back here if I find out more. In the meantime I'm looking into studio one and cubase for future sidechain processing needs until Logic can fix this.
  6. I removed every plugin in the session (not just turning them off) and the vocals are still delayed.. the strangest part is that they might actually be even more delayed now, which makes no sense to me. oeksound wasn't too helpful.. just forwarded me a link to the picture attached. If sidechain doesn't work for their product in Logic it'd be nice if they didn't include a broken feature, which would have kept me out of trouble. I thought that if the individual instrument tracks with Soothe 2 had no other plugins on them and the side chain was coming from individual vocal tracks (no bus involved in this routing) with no other plugins on them that i'd escape the sidechain latency compensation issue but that was foolish thinking on my part apparently. David, I can start a new thread for this if it would be appropriate but I'd love to learn more about your mixing workflow approach/setup in Logic.. I've really enjoyed what I've picked up here and there from your postings. For each song I'm considering doing preliminary edits for the drums in their own Logic session, etc. but there's a whole approach there that is new to me. Are there posts that I haven't found that detail your approach?
  7. I already made a copy of the session and turned off all plugins (not removing them) and the issue persisted. I'm just saying that an obvious vocal delay started after I inserted a plugin and removing that plugin instance did not fix the problem it created. I'll go back and remove all plugin instances and if that fixes it perhaps the lesson learned will be that if this ever happens again I just need to start over from scratch A similar but perhaps unrelated issue was happening on my vocal bus.. I have several plugins on it as part of my template, over the course of this song I only used two but when I removed the plugins that I never turned on this caused the vocal to be out of time. By clicking undo a few times I was able to get those plugins back and the vocal was back in time with the song as long as those plugins were both present and not turned on. I don't have this issue early in a mix.. at some point things get too complicated for logic, either that I find a way to break something and the system isn't capable of letting the user know that there's a issue.
  8. The first thing I did was turn them off, when that didn’t work I immediately removed all the instances of soothe but that didn’t work either. Why would a plugin on guitar side chained to the vocal cause the vocal to be delayed even after the offending plugin was removed?
  9. Urgent issue here.. I've got a mix due to a client tomorrow and I did something to the vocal tracks that I can't seem to undo. I slapped on several instances of the soothe 2 plugin on instruments at the end of a mix, side chained them to the vocal to help it cut through and now all the vocals are delayed by a fraction of a second. My cpu is very low since I bounce everything in place, a session with 40 tracks and there are maybe 10 plugins total (on the instruments, not the instrument busses) after I added 5 instances of soothe. The busses still have several plugins but my CPU threads are all at the bottom except for the far right cpu thread (I believe this is for real time processing) which is at 50%. It doesn't matter if I take the soothe plugins off.. put them back on, change the routing, turn off all the plugins on the mix bud, turn the side chain feature off.. the vocal delay is still there! I'm totally miffed. I'm nervous to manually time align because I know that I'm potentially just making the problem worse by treating the symptom and not the source of the issue. Any help is greatly appreciated!
  10. Thanks fuzzfilth.. 13 years of using Logic and you'd think I'd know this program like the back of my hand but there are so many features I'm still learning about. I'm super grateful for forums like this that regularly school me on what I need to know.. or let me know when the problem might not actually be me
  11. But it still communicates thru Thunderbolt. So you have a driver going. No guarantee for flawlessness. Sometimes I have to power cycle the Apollo interface because Logic doesn't see it or I don't hear signal. That's the first thing I do if things act weird. And I'm still on Firewire. So it's not perfect, but it's not Logic's fault. Is there a way for me to test if this is an interface Driver issue? It’s an odd problem and I might not be explaining it the best way. When I open up a logic session that I’ve been working on there might be an I/O plug-in on the master bus that is still working great but when I put a new I/O plugin on a track I can go to the channel that the I/O is assigned to for a piece of outboard gear and see that there is no audio passing. I’ll go back to the instrument channel with the I/O plugin on it and temporarily change that channel output to the output of the I/O plug-in and then back to where it was originally. Normally when I do that the output channel for the hardware starts to pass signal for the first time. I’m wondering if because I can see it not work in logic and then see it work there as well if the issue is in the DAW.. by issue I most likely mean user error
  12. Interesting.. Presonus doesn't even need a software mixer with it's interface to go between it and any DAW so you'd think there'd be less things to go wrong on that end of it. I went back and looked at the outputs for an I/O plugin that didn't work initially and I can see in Logic that nothing is happening on the meter of that output.. until I do one of my work arounds. This makes me think the issue is in Logic and how I have things set up. I'm finding that sometimes just toggling the channel strip solo button (after inserting an I/O plugin) does the trick of getting the I/O output to pass signal.. but it doesn't always work. I definitely haven't ruled out user error yet, especially since I just set up all this outboard gear a month ago. Thanks for brainstorming.. would live to hear any other ideas.
  13. Just checking back in.. in case there's any other thoughts or suggestions? I greatly appreciate the help!
  14. Well unfortunately that didn't fix the issue.. for a minute I thought it gave me a new workaround but I was wrong. I feel like I've read about this before but I searched the forum and other places about the I/O plugin with no luck. It seems inconsistent, sometimes I open a project and the I/O instances on my mix bus work fine and when I put a new I/O on a different track (not the same hardware that is on the mix bus) Logic doesn't output audio until I pick a random track and momentarily switch its output to whatever I'm trying to send it to. Once I've done that it works great for as long as the session is open. Any other thoughts or ideas about how to get around this issue?
  15. Thank you! I will try this out tonight.. I definitely have that box checked. I'll report back what I find.
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