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  1. Thought I would add a screenshot showing the Panner FOR channel strip 3, the acoustic bridge pickup from my Semi-Acoustic Godin MIDI guitar with 13 PIN MIDI. It has 2 Audio pickups for 3 outputs, one acoustic at the bridge, another lipstick towards the neck, 13 PIN MIDI. Usually do not use the lipstick because it has a hum that I’ve tried every trick to get rid of, but for recording it just won’t work. I know there are ways to delete the hum, but the Acoustic is the best sounding. Hopeful someone chimes in with the fix for changing the balancer back to the Panner for the acoustic guitar pickup! Seth CS-3 showing Panner for mono PU from guitar
  2. In readings it says a mono input will default to a Balancer, and a stereo input will default to a Panner; however, I have always had the Panner on my mono audio guitar inputs with LogicPro 9 - 10.4.4. I have never even seen a balancer before, until the last couple days. Initially when opening a 10.4.4 project in 10.6, the Panner was showing for my guitar inputs. When I made a change to an FX, it’s switched to a balancer, which is just a DOT in the middle of the 5.1 surround environment. Returning to the previous setting, did not retrieve the Panner. Not optimal in sound, and sound placement. I thought it might have something to do with I/O labeling/assignments. But this did nothing, except I now have labeling correct for inputs and outputs, which was lost somehow along the way. Probably when it was no longer in the Home folder library preferences. Why would one lose all their effort for labeling TMPL when transferring this to the project file, along with MIDI environment connections and cabling? Ahh well… On my older iMac, which maxes out to LogicPro 10.4.4 in High Sierra, I still have the Panners, but again if I mess with the FX settings, get the dreaded balancer. Somehow it makes the surround, sound like mono spacing, even though the volumes are different in all the speakers. Anyone have the secret to retrieving the Panner for my guitar inputs? Seth
  3. Dang! Had a problem with sound library that started this adventure, so downloaded everything fresh to my SSD boot drive. Previously on my older iMac my SSD was only 128 GB. So I created symbolic links for Logic, Audio, and GarageBand Folders. Now on my newer iMac with a larger SSD I can place the library there. That was the only thing that would fix the LogicPro quit problem. So my LaCie thunderbolt external drive is my LogicPro project location, and all the sound files are on my boot drive SSD. But now I have triplicates of the sound Library files on my external drive. To test I only moved 3 of the oldest folders into one folder naming, “To be deleted”. When I opened an old project, now get a dialogue, “Ignore, Retry, Reset”. However, the project plays normally and the audio files are there. So it must be referring to the sound library? When I replaced the folders to their original locations, received the same dialog box. ??? WT? I’m wondering, since clicking on Reset says it will re-download the sound library, it will see they are already there and link everything correctly, and not download again? The problem is, there are a lot of projects. Well, ~20. Thinking, must do this for every Project, all folder saved-default? Something is really messed up now! Daggumit! Just got everything working too, after about three weeks working on this, with the help of folks here, and some other issues on Apple community forum. Any assists will be most welcome! Seth
  4. Ahhh…. Yes, that all makes sense. I was reluctant to change the position of anything Concerned it might mess up how things are linked together. So it’s OK to move them around to make some sort of order, and logic pro will find them.
  5. •••••••••••••••••••• •••••••••••••••••••• I have a lot of “saved as folders” as that’s the default, and one assumes early on that’s the best. Most agree, until you’re finished, or think you have. When you say put the folders all in one folder, how do you mean? Do you mean put all the audio files in one folder and all the other stuff all in similar folders, or keep them separate, and then put them all in one folder? Then the logic files all kept in the one folder above? Seth
  6. I should’ve thought of that, making alias files and keeping them all in one folder, So you can see everything in one glance, instead of navigating all over the place, ending up not remembering what you were looking for.
  7. Accumulating a number of project files and they are located all over the place. It becomes confusing. Is it permissible to move them into one folder on the same disk within the LogicPro projects folder? Or will it mess up the links to audio files and so forth? Trying to create some organization and a chronology. Seth
  8. Having to login after composing a reply, and losing the reply, only happening on my iPad 5 Mini, iOS 15. The website data for LogicProHelp is 49.6 MB! Why would this be so much? Does not sound right... Delete? Any ideas on the Surround Panner vs Balancer; and, how I might retrieve the Panner? There must some settings that control this. One thing that has happened - Lost all my I/O labels and I/O input assignments. It defaults to a Surround setup for inputs, so, changed to input 1/2 only; although have 2 Stereo Mics and ocassionally using all 4 inputs. Trying to remember how this was setup, but so long ago. Perhaps this has something to do with it? From the ScreenShots able to see on the older iMac LogicPro 10.4.4 shows only Surround Panners for mono inputs; and, same initially opening in 10.6.3, but when make any FX changes, I get the DOT Balancer, which sounds much different. Suspect that the old post from years ago you stated to look in ~/Library/Application Support/Logic/IOLabels Core Audio no longer is valid? Did a Find Any File search and no file found. All stored as MIDI Environment, yes? Will redo the I/O labels, not a problem, more time... But, to understand the Balancer vs Panner and how to control this would be a large Help. Seth
  9. Must’ve done some website maintenance last night as I only got a blank white screen until this morning. Trying to post my success, finally! YEAH! However, every time I try to post a reply, even though I’m logged in, it requires me to login again; and, lose everything that I had in the reply, and have to start over again. Is there is some thing we need to know about before posting a reply so this doesn’t happen? Seth
  10. Question: Notice the third CS from the left is the mono input for the Godin acoustic bridge pickup, showing as a Surround Panner, as it always has previously. The same project in 10.4.4 displayed as a surround balancer, which I have not seen or dealt with previously; but, opening in LogicPro 10.6.3 it displays as a Surround Panner; however, when I turned off the compressor, and switched to Chorus, it changed to a surround balancer. Switching back to the original settings it stayed as balancer. Not sure what’s going on here. The balancer is just a dot that you move around, and doesn’t have the same sound effect as the Panner. I have not seen the balancer before. I’ve read what I could find and that mono inputs will show as a balancer and stereo as Panner. But I’ve never seen a balancer until today. The same CS has always shown the Panner. Is there a way I can retrieve the Panner, and why it switched to balancer? Seth
  11. YEAH! Finally, everything working! Did the importing of MIDI environment, but got mixed results. However, fixing the sound library and a few other problems, which were resolved, it occurred to me that after updating my logic files from previous Logic Pro X versions to 10.4.4, saved a LogicPro project as a package, and copied over via local network ethernet connections to the newer iMac running Big Sur, and LogicPro 10.6, everything opened up, and without doing anything, worked perfectly, showing exactly as it had these past years! 10.6 switched the ESX24 sounds to sampler, but maintained the same patch name, Ballard Bass, automatically, as I forgot to change the instrument setting to null. I was actually shocked, expecting the same immediate program quits when selecting a MIDI instrument in tracks. The MIDI environment displayed exactly as before with all the cabling etc., as you mentioned a package “save as” would do. Many thanks for your help and those of a few others here over the past few weeks. Been quite the adventure. However, learned much about the structure of LogicPro unaware of previously. Seth P.S. Couple shots of the exact same set up on both iMac’s, both working.
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