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Oh, and also I've got some really nice Numerology stack templates that will come with it! Preset switching stacks and the such that should make rocking out great compositions for new users of N3 all the easier! -BJG

Parham, Sometime next week, or the week after I will be releasing an extensive environment I've been working on for quite sometime. I had to take a break from it because I was finishing up some records I was producing. I designed it specifically for integrating Logic and Numerology for Five12, and as it turns out Logic is by far the most elegant DAW for the job! I'm working on some last minute programming (fixing stuck notes with cable switching, which I solved but it's a lot of cabling to do!). Here's a sneak pic of screenset #3 in the template which I affectionately call "grand central station". http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h394/funkdracula/Screenshot2012-10-10at1125.jpg This environment routes Numerology stacks outputs to any instrument in Logic. Also included in the routing scheme are two arpeggiators (one pre, one post scale quantization), a "chord machine" that turns single notes into triads of 1-3-5-8, 3-5-8-1, 5-8-1-3, and a scale quantizer that quantizes your MIDI to any of 35 scales I have inputed. It's all controlled by menu text style switchers, with NO stuck notes while switching while playback is on. Numerology is a great program, and the developer Jim is a super, super nice guy. I'm also working on a tutorial video to help people understand how easily this environment works, and how wonderfully these two programs work together. Hopefully we'll make this available over at Five12's forum no later than within two weeks, if not earlier. And of course, this is going to be free to the public! This environment works on many levels outside of integrating the two programs, but I would humbly suggest that people who download this template to please consider at least demoing Numerology in return. regards, BJG

Whoa.. good to know that. Thanks..

They don't stream from memory?

Thanks Ski, I'm following your logic here for sure. The option of sending note on's thru the cable splitter and passing the note offs on the other side sounds like that would work out great.. Even putting a delay line on note off's potentially, if the timing is an issue, which would make stuck notes just ones that ring out a "hair" longer than your real release time right? Sounds like a decent compromise to me... So... I'm trying out something like this tonight when I'm back at it; http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h394/funkdracula/Screenshot2012-07-20at60459PM.png I'm not able to really do anything but whip up a blank session on my laptop and show my theory right now, so am I on the right path here? In my head this would work out... Thanks again Ski! -BJG

I'm wondering if anybody can shed some light? I'm having a bit of difficulty searching for an answer... I found two threads that have environments, with apparently two different methods of solutions for cable switching without a stuck note, but I can't seem to wrap my head around it... long day... I'm gathering it has to do with somehow sending a note off message with the cable switch; ending the transmitted note that got switched before receiving any note off. I wouldn't mind disruptive switching, just so as long as I can rid the stuck notes instead of stopping play and hitting "midi panic". Thanks! -BJG

I get this as well, it happens for me with sessions containing really CPU intensive plug-ins, and cases where mass freezing of tracks is necessary for playback to even be possible. It doesn't matter which combination of 3rd party plug-ins, as this glitch is a general result of pushing your CPU to the limit and that's it. 32bit, 64bit doesn't seem to make any difference. It can be a pretty hazardous and potentially dangerous glitch, as it really does "blast" max volume thru your speakers/headphones. It sort of reminds me of what I like to call Logic's infamous "MIDI burp". Where you press record with a synced or Rewired MIDI program and it "burps" a measure out of buffered MIDI info superfast before playing properly. Same sort of result with this volume bug; it's like a whole measures worth of audio is sitting in some buffer, and get's blasted in one instant while Logic is freaking out. The MIDI one is annoying, but the audio one; I'm sure somebody has lost a pair of speakers from this one at some point. It's gotta be something to do with buffers, as like I described; it's playing about a whole measures worth of everything in an instant. -BJG

Whoa.. I'm looking at my templates now and seeing there is no short-cutting around optimization. What I have designed and have going is fun and useful, but the short-cutting around using single mapped transformer objects makes the file size of a Logic session exponentially greater. I.E I'm doing the math and in programing a single transformer object mapped, compared to using multiples in macros like I am currently doing is a difference between a 190MB session and a 5MB session with nothing in it but the Environment!! Oh dear lord my head hurts... I reckon I need a spread sheet of some sort to see the note # values to input to make this remotely easier on me.. Should be worth it in the end... -BJG

I'm trying to import an Environment layer into my regular template and I'm getting this message; http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h394/funkdracula/Screenshot2012-07-14at82250AM.png It's a pretty big layer. I may have gone about designing it inefficiently, using too many transformer objects in the end... but I wanted to have a "GUI" full of cable switchers, as opposed to meticulously mapping within just one transformer object while designing it. I digress.. I'm trying to add it up; and it's macros within macros within macros. Whipping out the calculator it all equals 16,432 transformer objects hidden in all those cable switcher macros. The partial layer it did import, is missing 11 macros. So the amount it did import is around 12,400 objects total. Overkill? Maybe, but it's easy to add that up when you just copy macros that contain a lot of objects to repeat processes they were designed to do.. so forth and so forth. It doesn't matter if it's 32bit or 64bit. I think may have ran into some sort of un-documented limitation of the Environment, that I'd like to further understand. The cabling between objects is nowhere in the limits of each objects cabling data path, at least I think, because the Environment I'm attempting to import, in it's native design session, runs rock solid and doesn't flinch RAM or CPU in the slightest regard. Also while disassembling and reassembling the layer in an import session everything runs rock solid yet again. There is just no way of importing this layer outside of disassembling it's macros into layer "chunks", and reassembling and cabling it's macros back together in the destination session it seems. Am I overlooking something? I've been working on this thing for days, and was getting all giddy about sharing it with the community because it's a really fun and useful layer, but now just trying to package it up so it's easy for people to import into existing sessions. -BJG

Here is a quick video demonstration. -BJG

Hello all, This is one of my first attempts with Environment programming outside of the MIDI routers I have made for integrating Numerology and Logic, soon to be made available for free from Five12. It is a Custom Scale Macro, where you can define the scale quantization, exactly like the Custom Scale module included with Numerology Pro. http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h394/funkdracula/CustomScaleQuantizer.png Each macro defines it's value throughout C-2 thru G8, so for example changing a D to play as a C# will effect all D's to play at C#. Also included in the Macro is a Key Changer, so if you are defining your scales in the Key of C you can transpose it centrally from the macro within the Custom Scale macro. I also included the Note Splitter that I made to make this possible. It splits all the notes C-2 thru C-8, C#-2 thru C#-8 etc etc. It may come in handy for other purposes, like putting delays and arps on specific notes etc. http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h394/funkdracula/NoteSplitter.png With the Custom Scale macro, you can easily start defining your own scale quantizations and build nifty Environments like this one I've been working on; 8) http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h394/funkdracula/Screenshot2012-07-13at101525AM.png I'm still working on this one, but basically this quantizes the keyboard input to the defined scales I made where each macro contains two Custom Scale Macros selected by a cable switcher. In the cable switchers are the choices of the regular scale, where the wrong inputed notes are "quantized" either up or down making the entire scale playable on all white keys; or there is a "gated" option where only the correct notes of the scale are playable and the wrong notes are muted; handy for actually learning what the scale is on the keyboard, and of course an "OFF" option. Then on the input side before scale quantization is an optional "triad machine", playing a triad chord for each individual note inputed pre-scale quantization; this really sounds neat! Follow the chord quantization up with an arpeggiator and you just might make Liszt himself jealous of your one finger piano playing prowess! You can even follow up the quantized, arpeggiated result with that Note Splitter setup again for further madness! I hope to make this Environment available soon, but in the meantime the building blocks for it are all here! Like I said, this is my first real attempt at programming in the Environment, so I'd definitely appreciate any pointers etc! Enjoy! -BJG Custom Scale Environment Template.zip

Hey FlowerPower, yes yes I know all this. I was just wondering if I was over-looking a quick little short-cut to speed up things when creating; you know the less mousing the better... Just a convenience thing! -B

I was curious if I'm just missing it, but when creating a new instrument/audio/aux channel is there a short-cut to flip between mono/stereo on the inputs instead of having to select the format in the dialog box? For example, in Pro Tools you hold down shift and arrow up/down/left/right to toggle thru the options. I was just in the middle of creating a bunch of auxes and it came up again, so I figured I'd hop on here and just ask while it's on my mind! -BJG

Looks like even a demo won't work on my iLok? I need to get a Vienna Key? Hmm.. it looks like I need a "Vienna Key" for each computer? Three Vienna Keys?? Could be worse things in life I guess, but that is a bit of a Debbie Downer. Can I get away with one Vienna Key and just have it plugged in when I initially launch each instance of VE? I do this a lot with my iLok; just plug it in when I'm launching an iLok protected plug-in and take it back out after it's been pinged as I don't like it hanging off of my laptop. Thanks, BJG