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  1. Does deleting audio files from the media /Bin within an LP9 song, delete them from HDD? How do I delete all the files from the Audio Bin in a Song? Thanks in advance.
  2. Yes, a good point, and I do understand the reasons for what you are saying regarding addressing the Neve, and I had considered bouncing it too, so thanks for suggesting that too.
  3. Thank you David. That was the answer I was looking for. Somebody had told me recently you couldn't do it with hardware EQ via Insert and I/O even though I have used I/O on Insert for years with external tape effects, but you have confirmed they were mistaken.
  4. I meant the channel strip. I temporarily forgot what it was called. Anyway, as I said, no need to continue this thread, as I can find the answer in a different way.
  5. I am going to retract my question. Thank you for responding nonetheless.
  6. Thank you. I should have said that I have already used the I/O plugin for external effects so know how to do this from within the Track inspector and the associated physical cabling - my question was more about if there was a better way, and using the I/O within Inserts where you would normally call up Logics own EQ plugin. Can this be done?
  7. I want to know how to patch in an external hardware (Neve) EQ into the signal path of Logic please so I can b applied to an track. Intuitively I would have expected to use the In/Out plugin from the Channel Inserts but I heard you can’t call up the I/O from the Insert. Is this true? What would be the most sensible routing to use to achieve my goal please?
  8. Thanks Mike - I can appreciate what you are saying there. I am discovering that ‘golden box’ is very large. ...wise words, and I very much appreciate the explanations you have written in your reply which ends in the above Des99, it’s above and beyond the call of duty as ever, but immensely helpful. Thank you. Logic certainly has great depths which I was not aware of, and I have skimmed along the surface of it for so long now, and I have ended up building on bad practices - it is obvious to me now when I read what you guys say should be done. The template I have been using for a while is a mess and well out of control, so I want to take all this advice that you, David, Dewdman42 and Fuzzfilth have offered on this thread and apply it. I hope others who have read this thread who like me are not experts have taken something from it to help them too.
  9. .... yeah, sorry that I keep turning up fundamentals. Who would have known that my lowly and conservative objective of trying to get two midi keyboards to simultaneously play their own dedicated software instruments in Logic would have spawned a ‘War and Peace’ length thread on all things related? I certainly didn’t. I am just too curious to learn maybe and should ask fewer questions, because my ignorance of even more basic, simple concepts just keeps on showing up when a new piece of the jigsaw is put into place by your collective helpful advice. its a wonder I have ever been able to use Logic all really, let alone record and mix tracks ready for CD etc. I just jumped in that car and improvised - crashed the gears,, pumped the gas and wrestled that steering wheel until the thing went forwards. But like any attempt to refine performance, I now I find I have to look under the hood etc so I know what you are all talking about when you help me refine it! ...many thanks for this. I will go and try that. Thanks for your time and effort in offering help. I will respond to the rest of what I see in the thread below at a later stage after I have had hands-on time back in the ‘studio’.
  10. ..fortunately I don't have that version of understanding - I have many times recorded multiple audio tracks beyond the physical input count of my audio interface. I took from your animations though that each successive audio track in Logic creates its own Environment Object and yet still retains the routing through the same "Channel". Haven't quite got my head around that one yet. Does it share the same Channel only when you 'copy/paste' the previous audio region into new track (as you showed when explaining the commonality of Muting across all of those copies)? ... I cannot deny I am spending 80% of my time when using Logic wrestling with the steering wheel rather than going out for a lovely drive, to go back to the car analogy, and that is not even just the Environment. ....OK - I won't pursue this FF400 stuff on this thread, but I will say I am aware that it is in itself a highly versatile routing mechanism for audio which does pose some challenges for me when linking it to Logic. I think I have the basics down though. Thank you for your offer of Private help. Thank you Redlogic for quoting the manual section for Muting in LP9.
  11. Thanks for the tip on LP9 Mute preferences - I will check that out. You know, I very nearly used that type of driving a car analogy in my previous reply, spookily enough. I was going to say - do I really need to know what is under the hood/bonnet to be able to drive competently? But, due to the regular references to things in the Environment from the help I am getting on this thread, I need to know something to be able to understand what you guys are explaining to me. I just worked out also why I keep hearing the External Instrument (Model D) playing what was recorded to that track because I only just got what Fuzzfilth was saying about it; I was hearing the audio coming through my Ff400 input because the Model D was still being played by the recorded midi on that Ext Instr track, despite the belief that I thought Mute on that Track meant it stopped sending midi out to the Model D - but Fuzzfilth said (I think) that was not what Mutes does - it just stops the sound being heard through that Logic channel strip. Is that the correct understanding? If this is correct then I will always also have to turn down the input fader on the corresponding audio input on my FF400 which receives the Model D sound. Is that correct?
  12. ....many thanks for your detailed reply - most helpful again. By Channel I thought you meant Channel Strip, until I read what Des99 said in reply: ...and so I looked again earlier at the Environment section of the famed Logic User Manual and remember that I took it at its word in the first sentence of that Chapter about 20 years ago when I encountered a version of Logic for the first time: ... and indeed now I see it goes onto say: ... but the truth is "Environment Objects meant nothing to me (other than - some objects in the Environment) - I didn't understand that latter term, and having just been told by the manual I didn't need to get involved with the Environment, I did not feel the need to pursue it However, since creating an External Midi Instrument, it is abundantly clear from your combined advice that I really do need to know all about the Environment after all, as I suspected a few replies ago in this thread. ....indeed I see what you mean - and many thanks for putting together those animations to show me (I have no idea how you do that!). .....I just ran the short song playback again and muted all three tracks but still the audio of the External Instr (Track 1) is coming through). Any ideas why? See screengrab: ...by the way, the above Audio track creation was my second attempt - in the first attempt I tried creating a New Track (Audio) when the selector was on the External Instr Track, because for convenience, I wanted to capture the audio recording from the External Instrument Track directly underneath it. However, after I created it in that position, the External Instrument Track ceased to work any more- the Model D did not get midi notes, so I was forced to re-create the Audio track as Track 3 at the bottom, so the Ext Instr Track would still work. I have no idea why the first version did not work, do you? ... yes, and I had thought to ask if I should switch this conversation to that thread. Let me know if I should. Dewdman42 and you had a good debate about it and I took the conclusion that Dewdman42 gave as the benefit to be 'better sync or PDC' or suchlike. Des99 - many thanks for explaining the history of how Mute has been deployed in Logic and understood/misunderstood by Users, along with what you can do now. This really helps me as it is the context I need. ... I don't seem to have those Track On/Off buttons that show up in Fuzzfilths animation example above - is this because I am on LP9? How do I switch off the Tracks on LP9 please? As a broader point of reflection, I was under the previous impression that Logic was really just a virtual studio in a box and all I needed to do was to relate to it like I do my hardware mixer and a reel to reel multitrack tape recorder, and that the Mixer Channel Strips and various signal routings to Groups, Auxes etc, along with Solo/Mute etc. is what I should consider the core process of Logic, along with laying down recordings to 'tracks' on the 'tape recorder' (how I relate to the 'Tracks' on Logic). Well I think now that I hold the wrong concept of what Logic is, as 'The Environment is King' is what I take from your advice, and me not understanding it or dealing with the Environment may well mean I don't get what Logic is, and that really the Environment is the core and everything else is just an expression of it? It is a space with objects in (with different functions) that you link up to make your studio? Maybe that sounds "ridiculously simple", but that's where I am at, but keen to learn, so I can finally set up a template that works for me and actually understand how and why it works.
  13. Several things I need to grasp here I think: - ...thanks. I was originally going to describe it as the 'track' being muted but I thought I might be pulled up on using the wrong term, so I went with Region instead. If I had used the term 'muting the track' would it have meant the same as how you have described it : muting the 'Channel output'? After watching your animated clip there (thank you for showing me that) I just looked back at my Arrange page whilst muting and un-muting the External Instr Track and yes, the "channel" output does Mute, however, I can still hear the recorded audio coming through annoyingly, and the only way I can think to get rid of it is to turn down the physical Master Volume knob on the Model D analog synth, which is not so convenient. Is that what you have to do to mute an external instrument when using the External Instrument Plug In? I looked for the command you described here whilst in the External Instrument Track but could not find it under any of the menus. Where is it located please? Finally, can I just check I am understanding the way the track behaves when hosting an External Instrument Plug In: The track is a Software Instrument Track in reality so it only can record midi regions from your source midi controller, however it is also somehow hosting audio through the track but does not allow you to record it, yet, if you mute that track, it mutes the audio from the channel outputs? Is that it? If my above description is correct then I still struggle to understand what the External Instr Plug In is delivering as a real advantage over creating 'one track for midi' and 'another track for audio' - at least this latter combo would allow me to record the notes once and then play back those midi notes repeatedly to record different audio takes where I manually twiddle the various knobs on my analog synth until I I find the one I want. I cannot see how I would achieve this latter benefit if I used the External Instr Plug in because I still have to create a dedicated audio track to record the audio output, which is the same net result as creating 'one track for midi' and 'another track for audio' - isn't it?
  14. Ok thanks. I find this confusing because midi is recorded on the track so I expected the ‘recorded content’ of the track to be Muted during playback. I know on the other thread I started about the value of using External Instr plug in Vs straight midi + audio tracks, the purpose and advantage of using the External Instr track was explained I think as boiling down to being better for PDC, but not being able to Mute the recorded midi on it seems a big disadvantage. I am still trying to work out the actual practical benefit of Ext Instr Plug in over the above alternative. It’s really confusing as a concept to me.
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