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Here is a somewhat detailed list of instructions for sending 14 bit MIDI control messages from the Moog Model 15 App on an iPad to ES2 in Logic. Hope this helps. How to tell the Model 15 App to send 14 bit MIDI when moving a knob. 0) Ensure that you can send any MIDI from the MODEL 15 App to Logic. I have no idea what your hardware/software setup is, so I cannot tell you anything here. 1) Choose a knob (for example the "FIXED CONTROL VOLTAGE" knob on the "904A VOLTAGE CONTROLLED LOW PASS FILTER"). 2) Tap the "SETTINGS" button near the top right of the Model 15 display. 3) Tap "MIDI" on the left of the display. 4) Ensure that "SEND KNOBS/SWITCHES" is on (background is white). 5) Tap "MAP CCs" 6) Ensure that the knob is step 1) is visible on the display. It should have a circle around it. What else (a number or "--") is displayed depends on your configuration -- which I do not know. 7) Double tap the knob. A panel "MIDI CC Assignment" should appear. 8) Type the number "16" in. 9) Below the number, there are four commands. Make sure the one after "Clear" says "Make 14-bit" (tap it if it does not). This toggles between 7 and 14 bit tranmission. If it say "Make 14-bit", then it is currently set to 7 bit and vice versa. In effect, make 7 bit for now so we can see what that looks like in Logic to compare with what happens when changed to 14 bit. 10) Tap "Set" to finish that dialog and save. 11) Tap the "X" near the top left to exit "MIDI MAPPING". 12) Create a new logic project with a single software instrument track. 13) Load ES2 as the instrument, use the default sound for simplicity. 14) Open the Event Editor 15) Start recording, move the knob on the Model 15. You should see many events - Status=Control, Num=16, different values. 16) The fact that all of the events have the same Status/Num indicates that the Model 15 is sending single precision (7 bit) MIDI CC messages. 17) Go backinto settings/midi/mapp ccs on the Model 15. 18) Double tap the same knob as before, then tap "Make 14 bit". The dialog goes away and the knob now has 14-BIT displayed. 19) Click the "X" to get out of midi mapping. 20) Delete the current Logic recording and start a new one. Move the knob. Stop the recording. 21) This time you should see alternating CC messages with num-16 and num-48. This is the 14 bit transmission from the Model 15. To get 14 bits, 2 CC messages are sent. (RPN or NRPN would be 4 CC messages each) 22) Note we haven't actually done anything with the ES2 yet. 23) Click the MIDI button near the lower left of the ES2 panel. 24) Click the arrow beside Ctrl C and select 16 GP1. 25) Go to the 2nd router which should be unused at this point. Select Cutoff 1 as the target, Ctrl C as the source. 26) Move the green arrow to the top (how much modulation). 27) Move the cutoff know on filter 1 to the minimum. 28) Now, hold a note and move the Model 15 knob. You should be able to hear the effect. 29) Can you hear a difference between 7 bit control and 14 bit? This is actually difficult. You will have to move the knob slowly (look up how to use two fingers on the Model 15 to help with this). And, you will have to experiment with patch settings on the ES2 that make a difference audible. Most will not. This is why 14 MIDI is not commonly used. I have now given a detailed answer. If you have further questions (that's OK) please make them detailed questions. drb

Been a while. I will try to duplicate what I did with ES2 and Model 15 tomorrow. In the mean time could you try to ask some more specific questions, since you have looked at the documents. I do not know what does or does not make sense to you. No one is born knowing this stuff. drb

Logic Pro X 10.4.6 Stability/Reliability Logic no longer quits unexpectedly when the Global View button on a connected Mackie Control device is pressed. Logic no longer hangs when quitting in certain cases. Resolves an issue when Logic would hang when using VoiceOver to interact with the Right Inspector Channel Strip. Fixes an issue where Logic could quit unexpectedly at launch. Fixes an issue where Logic would quit unexpectedly when importing a large number of samples into Alchemy in Drum mode. Logic no longer quits unexpectedly when double-clicking a new empty region with Region-based Automation enabled on the track. Resolves an issue where Logic would quit unexpectedly during playback if Alchemy contains a loop whose end point extends beyond the end of the sample. Fixes an issue where Logic would quit unexpectedly when a Roland A-Pro device is connected. Fixes an issue where Logic would quit unexpectedly when playback is started after copying a region and automation from one track to another. Fixes an issue where Logic would quit unexpectedly when “Create MIDI Track from Flex Pitch Data” is selected for a region in which no pitches have been detected. Fixes an issue where Logic would quit unexpectedly when the program number is changed in a MIDI track inspector. Performance Resolves an issue under cases of significant memory load where items in the channel strip could disappear when the cursor hovers over them. Channel strips now display correctly in stand-alone Mixer windows. Accessibility Restores ability to rename channel strips using VoiceOver. The Send on Fader button is now labeled properly when using VoiceOver. Channel Strip names are now announced correctly with VoiceOver. VoiceOver now announces the names of plug-ins in the mixer. VoiceOver now announces the names of MIDI plug-ins in the Mixer. Fixes an issue where areas of the Event List were not accessible to VoiceOver. Restores the ability to use VoiceOver to navigate to any individual Undo Step in Undo History. VoiceOver now correctly identifies disabled sliders on the MIDI > Sync preferences tab. Dynamic Plug-in Loading Kontakt libraries on frozen tracks now consistently reload after unfreezing in projects that have the “Only load plug-ins needed for project playback” setting enabled. Software Instrument tracks with the Record button activated will now load in projects with the “Only load plug-ins needed for project playback” setting enabled. Software Instruments cabled from classic MIDI tracks in the Environment now work as expected in projects with the “Only load plug-ins needed for project playback” setting enabled. Tracks fed from Environment objects such as Transformers or Cable Switchers now are activated if the “Only load plug-ins needed for project playback” project setting is enabled. Mixer Restores the ability to create a new track by right-clicking on an Aux on the right side of the channel strip inspector in the Main window. Audio Tracks that use a Bus as the input source now play back as expected when input monitoring is enabled. Setting an Aux channel to Automation Read mode in the Mixer now creates a track for the Aux in the Track List. Fixes an issue where the independent mixer window could occasionally appear blank. Option-clicking an empty EQ thumbnail on a channel strip now inserts a Channel EQ into the first plug-in insert. Restores the ability to load a mono plug-in on to a stereo track. VCAs can now be stored as part of the User Default channel strip configuration. The Create Track command on selected Aux channels in the Mixer now creates corresponding tracks in the Track List as expected. Enabling automation on selected Aux channels in the Mixer now creates corresponding tracks in the Track List as expected. New audio tracks created by Key Command now appear immediately in the Mixer. Automation Using Option + Shift to create a ramp when dragging automation now works consistently. The Mode parameter for DeEsser 2 now shows up correctly in the Automation parameter list. The Automation view now changes as expected when a Key Command to enable a Region Automation type is triggered with no region selected. Plug-ins Resolves various issues in Scripter with certain large scripts. Fixes an issue in the MIDI Scripter where Event objects in the script code did not behave as expected. The ES-M, ES-E, ES-P and ES1 plug-ins now reliably output all played notes. Apple Loops Restores the ability to Copy/Paste loops from the Loop Browser to tracks. Dragging multiple Apple Loops into a project with the Create Tracks option now creates the proper type of track for each loop. Undo Restores the ability to Copy Selected Regions to Focused Track command and create an Undo step. Fixes an issue where Undo of Bounce in Place for regions on Software Instrument tracks could unexpectedly reset the channel strip to its default setting. Control Surfaces/MIDI Controllers The Korg Nano Control control surface is now recognized and functions properly in Logic. Logic now detects the proper device and port with the Nectar Panorama P1 control surface. Articulations If multiple output switches are used and the MIDI channel is set to any value other than number 1, each event will now get assigned to the correct MIDI channel. Flex Time and Pitch Flex Time adjustments in Take Folders are now properly displayed in the UI. Takes/Comping Resolves an issue where creating a Flex Time Marker in a Take on a track that is a member of a Group can cause the Take to be deleted in other tracks from the Group. Key Commands The key command for Toggle Track On now works as expected. Export Projects with tempo adjustments that contain frozen tracks now bounce as expected. General User Tuning Tables now work as expected. The Smart Controls interface now appears at full resolution on 13” MacBook Pro.

Resurrecting this for a final point I found while looking through threads referenced in this one and further. In a KVR thread where the OP of this one is using the forum name Jace-Beos, the OP of this one mentions having problems especially with "filter sweeps at high resonance". A few posts later someone with the forum (KVR) name JCJR made an interesting post especially the last three paragraphs. Link - https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7256262#p7256262 In my words, he suggested the non-smooth effect had nothing to do with MIDI at all. It was the result of a high resonance filter picking out one harmonic at a time from a pitched tone. This sounded very plausible to me. I tried it with a Moog Mother-32, not using MIDI, head phones plugged directly into the Mother-32. Got exactly that result with pure analog. I wonder how many low resolution MIDI bashers have been fooled by this. Sadly, no one (at least for a few pages, I did not read the whole thread) reacted to his post. I like MIDI. Including 7 bit. I post this as something for anyone thinking that they absolutely have to have high res MIDI to think about. drb

OK, Looking at the page for ES2 referenced above and the manual included with the Moog Model 15 app, I have set up both to use the big "FIXED CONTROL VOLTAGE" knob on the 904A Filter as a double precision 14 bit controller (not 14 bit pitch bend, not 14 bit NRPN, not 14 bit RPN) for the filter cutoff on ES2. All of the steps to be performed at the ES2 are in fact in the page referenced above. All of the steps to be performed at the Model 15 app are in its manual or prompts. I really did not hear stepping with 7 bits, but I recorded a bit and checked the Logic event list and saw that the expected MIDI messages were recorded. Have you actually read these documents and tried to follow them? drb

In a MIDI editing window choose Functions/MIDI Transform/Transposition. drb

Assuming you mean Library/Orchestral/Percussion/Orchestral Kit: It seems at least a lot are under Garageband. Open up EXS24 and the hit the Edit button (near top right) and look at the zones (simplest click on all zones), then hover over the file names and you get the complete path. drb

I looked at the manuals for ES2 and Moog Model 15 App. Both describe using 14 bit double precision MIDI CC's. This is *not* the same thing as NRPN. Both double precision MIDI CC's and NRPN do provide 14 bit precision. But, NRPN also provides a 14 bit NRPN number as opposed to the 7 bit MIDI CC number. Using search on the three main Logic manuals I see nothing at all about NRPN's. I believe Logic simply is not programmed to recognize them. They could be passed through from a device that generates them to a 3rd party synth that recognizes them, or back to the same device that generated them. So, noting the first sentence of your first post "I want to use NRPN messages from a Korg Kontrol49 to do fine control of Logic plugin parameters." I do not think this can be done without something "extra". (Assuming the Korg device is sending NRPN, not double precision MIDI CC.)

I think it might be possible to do this via the MIDI FX Scripter Plugin. It might be able to interpret NRPN's and output Logic Plugin Parameters. In the Effects manual / MIDI plug-ins / Scripter plug-in / Tutorial Script 15: Control Plug-ins there is an example. Extra programming would be required to interpret NRPN's. Would this approach be of interest to you? drb

Actually, it's a little more general. Its how computers today conventionally represent numbers that are not floating point numbers (having an exponent something like scientific notation). Google "two's complement" .

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10.4.1 Maintenance upgrade: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=136108 Release notes for 10.4 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203718 Downloading now Short list of changes: Smart Tempo Advanced tempo detection lets you automatically combine content together, regardless of their original tempo Record audio without using a click or drag in an audio file and have the performance define your project tempo Add any audio file and have it automatically conform to the project tempo Plug-Ins ChromaVerb is a sophisticated new algorithmic reverb with a colorful, interactive interface for creating rich acoustic spaces Space Designer is a convolution reverb with a new design and a scalable, Retina interface Step FX adds rhythmic multi-effect processing using 3 powerful step sequencers and an X/Y pad Phat FX makes your tracks bigger and bolder using 9 effects that add warmth and punch to your sounds The Vintage EQ Collection provides 3 accurate models of vintage analog EQs from the 1950s to the 1970s Studio Strings and Studio Horns are deeply sampled, realistic ensemble instruments with custom articulation controls Mellotron is now available as a standalone instrument plug-in Retro Synth now offers 18 different filter models More Content 2 new Drummers play roots and jazz-influenced brush styles 2 vintage brush kits for Drum Kit Designer More than 800 new loops in a variety of instruments and genres New Visions library for Alchemy adds 150 cinematic presets Additional Features You can now undo mixer and plug-in actions The Files Browser now allows you to bookmark locations for your favorite folders containing samples or projects In addition to Apple Loops, the Loop Browser now supports looping audio file and can preview them in sync with project tempo A new universal design for controlling articulations provides a consistent interface for Logic and third-party instruments

After installing the following: Garritan_Personal_Orchestra_4.02_MAC MAC_ARIA_1.9.0.2_Update MAC_ARIA_Player_v1.872 I had the same problem. After talking / emailing with MakeMusic support, they suggested that I do the following: Delete "/Library/Audio/Plug-ins/Components/ARIA Player AU. component" (which is the plugin) Re-install Garritan_Personal_Orchestra_4.02_MAC Re-install MAC_ARIA_Player_v1.872 This worked for me. There is still a problem with the Preferences dialog not working in stand-alone mode. But I am mostly interested in plug-in mode which now works for me. Hope this helps

I was able to validate Kontakt 4 and Reaktor 6 after updating to OS X 10.11.1 from 10.11 (on an external test partition). drb

des99, OOOpppss -- I need to update my sig! drb