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Sorry, I forgot that I hadn't changed that tag thing, haven't been here in years.

Thanks. It's a 16inch Mac Book Pro i9, 2019 model. Works amazingly. But upgrading is always scary!

Thanks - when I go to the App Store it says there's no available upgrade. I'm on 10.6.3. I use Catalina. Very reluctant to upgrade OS because everything works ... apart from this.

Hi everyone, I like to work on several screens, one has a separate piano roll window so I can see the midi in a certain region separate from the arrange window, really helps my workflow ... until.. I've always been able to click and hold and make a blue box to select a bunch of midi notes, and for some reason now I can't But when I try this in the arrange window (press P and a piano roll comes up in the main arrange window) it works fine, but it doesn't work in the separate piano roll window on my other screen. Is this a bug? Is there something I have selected that's preventing this? It's really slowing me down that this isn't working properly so I really need your help! Thanks.

I'm trying to work out Logic's "Logic" on this one. Is tempo information ALWAYS automatically embedded in a bounce in Logic? I find that half the time when I import audio that's bounced from another session it asks if I want to import the tempo info, and the other half it doesn't ask me. Does any one know why? Trying to work out what I'm doing wrong. Thanks

Yeah the problem is we all use Logic and have for years so, we gotta stick with logic. We use logic because we love it’s built-in sounds and loops for what we do. Anyway I will just have to keep dealing with the frustration. I might also just have to be more careful making SMPTE locked markers as indicators of tempo changes. I’ve gotten by so far I guess. Would just be nicer to not have to waste so much time doing it. Sometimes I also use a 2nd tempo map which can be done too.

Thanks, but again I can't do that. I mean literally every week I have to turn up with a session with all midi and everything in one session so we can work on it together and do stems all together. It would slow us down and make things extremely complicated if I kept have multiple sessions for separate cues. I mean, this could literally mean 30 sessions for a 7 mitnute episode, which would be absolutely ridiculous. Sorry if I wasn't clear, but I hope it's clear now that your suggestions would not work at all - I appreciate your suggestions anyway tho. Even just waiting for the bloody things to open - I have a Mac book pro i9 with 64gb ram but my sessions still take 4 minutes to load because they have 400 tracks in my template. Furthermore no one else on the team turns up with more than one session. I have done SOME episodes with two sessions on occasion and just imported audio, but I don't like doing that because it was actually a nightmare even with two - because, every episode goes through about 8 rounds of notes and changes, sometimes more, and it meant I had to keep going back and forth and back and forth and back and forth between these sessions. If I had it separated cue by cue, mny of which are 15-20 seconds long, it would be absolutely ridiculous and I would probably screw things up. Hope that helps clear things up.

No, I actually mean separate music cues in one project. See, I worn on episodes of animated tv that go for 7-10 minutes so it doesn’t make sense to have all sorts of separate files. I really how I keep getting off click all the time when I have to make lots of edits and changes. Would just be so much easier if I could lock a tempo change to SMPTE and it would just automatically make the previous beat some random tempo in order to ensure that it stays on click. It really helps for playback to producers to be that flexible and have it all in one project, also helps for doing stems, only have to make stems from the one project importing from several would be a nightmare. And often there’s not much space from one cue to the next. The music changes a lot throughout.

Thanks. All true. I do actually quite like that logic offers two tempo maps. I’ve worked out all sorts of creative ways to deal with tempo but it is hours of frustration most of the time for me unfortunately. The biggest headache is producers asking for something different and/or picture changing, which might mean writing something completely different in tempo early in the session, putting everything after it off grid if you’re not careful. This happens a lot for me. Anyway thanks for your suggestions. I didn’t actually realise other DAWs didn’t offer this either.

No can do. Everyone I work with uses logic. It’s logic or nothing, unless I stop working with my colleagues but that would mean not eating lol.

But some cues i do might be in one tempo for one Also I have an i9 maxxed out with ram mac book pro bit my sessions take 3 minutes to open because there’s so many sounds. Going between sessions would take forever. I get it for a movie, but not for a 13 minute episode with all sorts of complicated music. But I’ve probably said all that before. What I want to know is - if I can achieve it manually, but with trouble, why can’t it be programmed. I mean, if I can do it be stuffing around (and often screwing it up because I get confused and it disrupts my creative process), then why can’t the computer just do it? When I past in a SMPTE position to tell a tempo change to go back to its original position, it then automatically changes the previous tempo for me. As long as they are ON some kind of grid mark, which they need to be for recording sessions anyway, then it just calculates automatically what the previous buffer tempo needs to be in order to sync the new tempo mark. It might even be something like q=123.567 or whatever so that it syncs. Also, when I use features like “cut/insert time” logic always asks me “do you want to insert a bar of 5/4 (for example) which helps keep things in sync, and that’s great. I’m essentially asking for the same thing, but instead with locked tempos. Logic could just go “logic will insert a buffer tempo before your locked tempo mark, is this ok?” And I would click yes. It would really just be what I already do manually with great difficulty, but it can just do it automatically, I would just sacrifice the preceding beat and it would calculate what it needs to be in order to stay in sync automatically. I’m not a computer programmer, but I don’t see why that would be a problem, it would just have to keep doing that same calculation it already does every time I change a tempo. Does that make sense?

Yeah that’s exactly what I do. But it’s so easy to screw it up and also so easy to end up in all sorts of funk when the picture changes or producers ask for notes that require all kinds of complicated tempo changes I know how to do it all, but a computer would do it so much better.

Damn do you really think Logic will never do it? mant professionals in film use logic... why would they just ignore them?

Ok thanks. It’s just that I’ve been asking so it it for years now and nothing has happened except my psychological well being has been getting worse and worse and worse because of constantly having to spend so much time in my work trying to solve problems that the computer could do for me if these features existed.

What would happen when you change the BPM value of the tempo point directly to the left of the locked tempo change? Yeah that’s exactly what I do - but i have to use a tricky system of SMPTE locked markers and forcing tempo changes into place, but it takes me forever amd sometimes I stuff it up or make another little change somewhere and it screws it up. If the computer would lock it for me, it would honestly save me hours and hours and hours of time, heartache and frustration. Tonight once again I dealt with a new picture coming in with all sorts of changes. It took me 4 hours to conform to it with lots and lots of trial and error. Logic is terrible at this. I know this is dramatic, but I honestly think I would have a much better quality of life if Logic would just implement a few features like this. It’s honestly ruining my life because I have to constantly do all-nighters to work out what is going on and get things working again. Really affecting my psychological well being. Anyway. What chances do I have? I’ve suggested it multiple times and they never respond to me