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  1. I'll try that method too, changing it in the list worked as well. The beat mapping/smart tempo question gets back to why this happened over multiple older projects. I've not intentionally used those tools. Slipping fingers, mystery shortcuts, and this football field trackpad can send me to mistake hell very quickly in LPX so it's possible, but it is too consistent. I always set the project BPM in the LCD display initially, why it changed remains a mystery. Thanks for the help, at least I can see the problem, and fix it in my projects.
  2. I didn't know this, but in the tempo list the BPM shown can be selected and changed, corrected. Of course Locking/unlocking SMPTE Position of audio regions probably needs attention. So I can fix older projects that have to be opened in 10.8.1, but I still have no idea why this is occurring.
  3. no, a little different. Any new project originated in 10.8.1 shows no such discrepancy between the list tempo and the time/beats display, which is also the bpm specified there at project creation. Of course any bounces from those are fine. Only the older projects reopened, I'd have to open several more to see if it happens every time, but I hope to actually get back to work on the first one I reported here. Still of interest that older bounces from those projects are accurate. I just can't track when/what versions, this may show itself
  4. well there it is! I'd never opened that before. The project bouncing out too fast shows 94.2821, the project working properly is the correct 94, as set. How this happened at some point, I have no idea, nor how to correct it back to 94 as specified originally. At any rate, here's clear evidence of the problem finally, thank you. I was about to drop it as I'm the only one that seems to have experienced this.
  5. David, not sure where I might find a tempo list, but scrolling the head from beginning to end shows no change in the control bar display throughout. Fufilth(hah!) the tempo line is solid beginning to end with no automation points. Thank you both for input, it remains a mystery. I'm encountering this again in another old project just newly opened
  6. further info- I found an old stereo mix bounce of the project, way before 10.8.1. BPM is accurate. All this seems to have to do with older projects opened anew in 10.8.1. Of course it could be pre 10.8.1, but this is when I discovered it
  7. I read through the info, thank you. They do seem to have complicated things for us with simple minds. However, "Keep project tempo" is selected, both versions, plugin compensation is on and buffer settings set in main prefs so cross-project. Should have been ok
  8. An older LPX version would be helpful for this, but no I don't have one. Yes your interpretation of my explanation is correct and perhaps this will be clearer- Project One- Originally created in 2017. Don’t recall what version of LPX. It includes audio tracks and virtual instrument midi tracks. It has now been opened in v10.8.1, some work done, stem and test mix bounces revealed slightly inaccurate BPM, too fast. Project Two- Created new in v10.8.1. Identical BPM, time sig, sample rate as “One”. Then each track from “One” was “added” with the file browser. Stem and test mix bounces have accurate BPM. The jpeg above is click bounces of each in a NEW test project just to show the offset. Top pair is start, mid pair mid song showing drift, bottom pair shows clear ~5 second offset at end of song. I hope this clears things up. I'll just proceed with Two, but I have several other older projects to continue work in 10.8.1. I am pondering some version evolution of settings that makes assumptions opening older projects. Thanks for tolerating all this. T
  9. as I said I seem to be creating more confusion than anything else. I thought I described the new and the old. I'll have to try again after more coffee
  10. no, the "old" and the "new" as described. The screenshots are of the click bounces from the 2 projects, displayed in a new clean project just to show. Just describing all this, I create more confusion than I solve !!
  11. I'll look over that thank you, here's perhaps another description- First of all let me be clear, the “new” 10.8.1 project was created fresh in 10.8.1 with same settings as the old project- sample rate 44.1, BPM 94, 4/4. Then all the tracks were added from the old project with the file browser, some audio, some virtual instrument midi. The “old” project was created around 2017, LPX version ?. But then newly opened in 10.8.1, it’s the one with time inaccuracy. I output click only from both, you can see the start time is the same, the drift midway, and the clear difference at the 4 1/2 minute end, of about 5 seconds.
  12. yes I've been very careful about that, and not all the tracks are audio, virtual instrument midi tracks too.
  13. Projects originated in pre 10.8.1 LPX, opened and worked on in 10.8.1, stems, mixes, bounces, are off tempo. When imported into a different DAW, or back into 10.8.1 LPX fresh project with exact BPM, meter, sample rates, they are off, and drift farther off over time of course. I'll try building this project from scratch in a new fresh 10.8.1 project, but I'd like to get to the bottom of it, it will be a problem with several other older projects as well. Appreciate any help, thank you
  14. would any of these settings effect timing of bounced mixes or stems, or just recording? I'm having trouble with bounced stems/mixes being out of sync when importing to another daw with identical project settings. We never had this problem before recent updates, both LPX and StudioOne. Thanks
  15. I realize this situation may be too specific for much wide spread knowledge here, but it's maddening so worth a try. A co-worker and I have been swapping tracks easily for ~5 years without problems, given our project settings are the same (sample rate, temp, etc...) We've not done this for several months and in the meantime I've updated LPX and he's updated Studio One. Now, exported tracks from one of us to the other have very slightly different starts, requiring a nudge after importing, and sometimes even drift throughout. Might there be new bounce settings that would effect this, or some other change? I realize there might be few if any here with Studio One experience, but it's possible if it's an LPX issue then it might occur with other DAWs as well. Thanks for any input, this is difficult after years of perfect track sharing
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