Cheers for your very insightful and thoughtful response mate, Ill be sure to take everything you have said on board. I didn’t realise providing two very clear examples of what I was looking for would be described as being ‘deliberately vague’ and I am baffled as to how I was ‘baiting’ people in but you are clearly some sort of wizard with music production and I respect your wise words of wisdom in helping me…….
As a matter of fact, yes I have been playing around recently and still struggling to get the right sound. I have been layering bass synths of different waveforms, e.g. layering sine with saw then using a filter cut off to get rid of the higher tones from the saw. Also been using various effects like the bit crusher here but to no real avail.
I have mainly been using the ESM/ ES1 to mess around with but not getting a dark/deep enough sound like in my above examples. I had a go with Sylenth and Massive too but still trying to work my way around effectively using them.
You able to shed some wisdom now mate? Is this enough progression for you up there on your high horse?
Bear in mind mate, this is a forum for people to discuss ideas and help other people. Condescending, rude and cheeky responses like yours above are just plain uncool and make you look pretty stupid I’m afraid.
Don’t bother replying unless its to help, this is no place for petty arguments.
Cheers.