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  1. and another TEST i Did.. gave me more Bad Results.. Same Plugins in Intel installed.. and the same in Mac Studio.. logic opening in Rosseta mode.. Again same exactly AU's and logic in the Mac Studio takes much much longer than intel to open.. Strange.. like 20 seconds more.. another Sad News for me.. so yes.. Rosseta 2.,. makes logic startup Longer than Intel.. strange but true.
  2. no my daws Don't Use VST.. only AU.. no vst enable in them.. Yes i had tried that creating a new admin account too nothing the same.. it is not 14 seconds it is 42 seconds.. to startup logic pro.. that a lot
  3. yes I know that.. i always reboot after taking out the au's ,,, i am in admin account i don't thing that's the problem.. it happens with my other macs too.. Yes I have tried everything and nothing.. logic still very slow.. I DON'T HAVE A GOAL.. here.. to complain.. or to fix.. or whatever..?? what's that all have to do with this?....??? I am just saying and sharing my facts.. to see if some one knows why logic is so Slow and Mainstage faster? or even other Daws? with the same amount of plugins?.. this has no logic to me.. i mean it is an apple product it should be the Fastest Startup than Any other daw ..am I right?.. but it is quite the opposite.. my other Daws start much much Faster than Logic Pro. even Mainstage.. and it is by apple very fast too.. so maybe it is not the Plugins.. it is the "ENGINE" "programming" that logic pro uses.. that is my guess after all the tests.. and facts.. methodic tests.. well i post this here to know if someone knows something deeper than the logical things we do to fix problems.. like moving au's out.. restart.. and test.. change user accounts.. etc.. some other solution I really like logic pro.. but it just takes too much time to start up.. in a Mac Studio.. quite disappointed with a SSD super fast.. and lots of ram.. and many cores.. etc etc.. and a clean system.. so has to be something deeper in the logic engine.. i guess.. that is my veredict.. nothing fix it.. not the usual stuff..
  4. yes I took all izotope plugins out from "components" folder and nothing.. still very slow.. i don't think it is just 1 plugin.. o a brand.. i think is something with logic.. because I measure the time.. talking out 100 plugins at time.. and yes.. the more plugins.. the slowest logic gets .. not by "brand" or "company".. it is more about the number of plugins.. strange.. it went from 10 second to 43.. seconds and if I buy and install more it will be even slower.. so?.. that is bad news for my workflow.. even Mac Os Monterrey starts Faster than Logic .. in 9 seconds I am inside monterrey ready for work.
  5. sorry i was out.. lastest logic pro version monterrey lastest update too.. yes i have no idea why logic takes so much time.. to load up.. that happened in my other macs too.. with many plugins installed.. imac pro.. mac studio.. and a apple latop too.. so it is not the version of logic pro or the system it is something that logic does.. and in my other macs the other apps open up very fast too Mainstage.. Ableton.. Reaper super fast.. Studio one.. etc . only logic does this slow thing.. i guess is the logic pro engine.. or something..
  6. Yes I have notice that too.. very strange. i thought buying the fastest mac studio will fix my problems and load plugins faster but not.. same as intel almost imac pro.. there's something wrong and strange about logic pro with apple silicon.. and it is going to take years to all Third Party companies to release their final perfect AUv3 plugins.. so.. foolish me thinking that the Fastest Mac Studio will load plugins fasters etc etc.. the answer is NO. simple. even in my other mac mini m1.. from 2020 does that the same thing.. so it is software related with Logic.. and not a very optimize Rosseta or logic who knows what programming.. so that is something people should be aware of when they bought Third Great party AUs with logic.. but yes.. Mac Studio supports alot of tracks alot ¡ that is 100% true.. but opening plugins and closing them.. you can see very strange Core Peaks on the system monitor.. and things like that.. it's something have to be aware of . when buying a Apple Silicon... maybe and UPDATE from logic and Monterrey will fix it.. but I doubt it.. it's been years since Apple Logic Theme "programming" does not change the logic "Engine" very much.. it is not very good optimized in my opinion.. not yet. maybe in 5 years yes.. but now today.. noup.. things are very weird and slow sometimes.. like the Startup problem I have.. and opening AUs too... noticed that too.
  7. only to open no to open the project I know something computers.. and I know that is another process.. yes without third party plugins it takes 4 seconds here too. but as i said after installing my plugins all updated not all to rosseta YET .. but that problem happens on my imac Pro too and Laptop + other Mac Apple Sillicon not only on my computer.. and that problem happens only on Logic.. not in my other Daws.. PINPOINT¡ I did that ¡ exactly that Install only izotope 7.. restart take notes of the time.. so so.. and then.. izotope 8 .. waves.. etc etc.. and the more plugins I have no matter which Company is the more LOGIC PRO takes to start up .. no Templates or last project used.. nothing.. just the startup..yes i though first it was only One Company or Brand.. etc.. and not.. the more plugins you Buy and INstall the more slow Logic "Startup" becomes.. yes thank fisherking ¡ I have no idea why only logic pro does that.. that is sometihing I mention before.. my other daws with VST disblae in preferences using only AU start up so fast compare to logic.. it is slowing me down very much my work flow.. to the point of almost leave logic pro besides.. but I really like logic pro it is fantastic DAW. so.. yes.. I have no solution for my problem Yet.. because I use other daws too. and I use those plugins too.. so moving the AU physically from the AU folder and put them back it is a very slow problem and not very practical .. very strang because MAINSTAGE is an Apple Product.. starts like ableton and studio one and etc.. very FAST.. very strange,... i have no idea why.. it's been years this problem.. for me.. with logic.. even in the fastest Intel Imacs and Pros etc does that.. only logic.. tested By me.. with a clean system installed on them.. in my opinion i think is something about Logic Pro itselfs.. the Engine it uses to startup..the app.. programming.. etc.. it is not hardware related . so.. maybe someday in a dew years Apple Logic Theme Programers will FIX that issue.. but I don't think so.. so i am stuck on this when I use Logic Pro.. very sad about it.. in fact That's is why I mention it.. maybe somebody knows a "hack" or a "comand" or something.. to by pass something I don't know.. to make logic startup faster.. but no luck yet.. Thank you for you help and respond and sorry about my english it is not my country language.. in fact I send a report to Apple logic "Feedback" years ago talking about it.. and no Fix and Respond etc.. just saying that They thing it is the Third Party AU.. i don't think so.. because as I said 100 times before.. my other daws don't do that.. only Logic. anyway.. gotta keep working now.. mixing. Thanks.. and maybe someday apple can fix that.. or some one knows some way of Making logic Faster at the startup . yes yes to all allready try that.. even pram reset etc.. and nothing.. just music apps and nothing more on my macs.. nothing no adobe.. video etc apps.. very clean system.
  8. thanks for your answer my computers never sleep always on.. i use them all
  9. i mean it's not the end of the world.. i'm just pointing out what i'm experiencing
  10. no no ofense .. it does not matters to me.. but why in this logic pro forum everytime someone put the facts in the table about something that Logic Pro does do so good.. instead of saying YES you are right.. same problem here etc.. every body starts asking things like "Why" you open your logic pro 30 or 40 or 50 times a day? what's that has to do with the PROBLEM? .. nothing,.. i just have to close and open logic many times because i work with many daws .. so?.. anyway.. it's clasic in this forum it is pretty good.. but everytime I point some BAD about logic it's like LOGIC fans get ofended or something like that.. this is the procedure.. this is the result .. is there a hack or a fix for that?.. or does somebody Knows why logic is so slow if you install alot of third party AU ?.. simple. if not.. ok no problem it is what it is.. next.. if somebody knows a TRICK ir something.. well that could Help me. thanks. no problem man..
  11. tested in 4 imacs 1 imac pro 1 mac studio without nothing just the plugins and a clean install , and yes logic is the slowest of all i have no idea why logic is so bad with third party AU , others Daws are much faster at the startup even Mainstage is 5 times faster.. same plugins.. maybe logic pro Theme need to fix something with startup engine they have.. and i just bought waves complete bundle and it has like 200 AU.. maybe it will be even slower than before.. on the startup.. and everytime i have an idea in my mind i have to wait 43 seconds to start recording.. if logic is not open.. 8 seconds it's ok 43 it is too much.. and wito more purchases it will get even slower ... the more plugins you install the slower logic pro is.. Yes I'm using it in roseta mode.. ableton too..mainstage too.. studio one too.. and all the rest.. what's wrong with logic programming? why it is so slow when you install third party plugins?.. and ALL the other companies (daws) are even faster than logic.. that is a downside for me.. so i will maybe try using more.. ableton or.. studio one.. maybe.. who knows.. i know all those daws.. i really like logic pro.. but man it is very slow when you open it and you have a lot of plugins.. and ONLY logic does that.. anyway.. maybe someday it will be as fast as Mainstage..
  12. let me check how much time exactly it take ,, with time app.. You guys don't get the Point of what I am saying.. just Laugh about it.,.. without taking it as it is.. classic. --------------------------------- Logic Pro - 43 seconds Logic Pro with Mac Studio ... Studio one - 4 seconds Ableton - 8 seconds Reaper - 4 seconds Mainstage - 9 seconds ---------------------------------
  13. i have 400 plugins installed i used them all but one thing I noticed is that Logic Pro is the slowest DAW on the market to startup with many AU installed and Why does Mainstage Starts in 3 seconds compare to Logic Pro 14 seconds? for example: Studio One 6 starts 100 times faster than logic (only using AU plugins) Reaper starts 100 times faster than logic (only using AU plugins) Ableton starts 100 times faster than logic (only using AU plugins) Mainstage starts 100 times faster than logic (only using AU plugins) etc etc.. only logic does this.. even with a clean system installed... even with my new Apple Mac Studio.. the startup is the same very slow in logic pro...
  14. if you want more than 16 tam you GOTTA spend 2,000 dollars for the Mac Studio (basic model) i leave with 24 GPU that will never be useful for Audio to be honest.. so Apple Only Thinks about VIDEO not AUDIO .. we don't need 64 GPU cores... We Need CPU Cores ¡ only and a decent Gpu..8 Cores will do..
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