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It's working great!

Thanks for following this thread and for your continued responses. Your explanation makes a lot of sense. I want to apologize if my proposed explanation for why this additional code solved the problem was off the mark. During my searches over the past couple of days I had read the comment about Logic disconnecting if it got a lot of "garbage MIDI" *, but I think I took it out of context and your explanation makes more sense in my case. I realize that this issue was with a custom controller that I built and programmed so in no way did I intend to disparage Logic! * https://forum.pjrc.com/threads/57678-Teensy-3-2-Midi-controller-not-showing-in-Logic-Pro which references this other thread: https://forum.pjrc.com/threads/45325-Teensy-LC-Logic-Pro-X-help

You were correct that the OS or version of Logic made no difference (I tried on a system running Mojave). Thanks once more for all your suggestions. But I'm happy to report that I found a solution and I'm posting it here in case others have this issue in the future. MIDI controllers which only transmit data should be designed to read and ignore all incoming messages. If software (like Logic) is sending messages to Teensy, it can cause problems with USB buffers filling up with never-read messages. Logic ignores controllers that generate a flood of messages, and even though this controller is not providing any signals when the sliders are not moving, it appears that it needs to ignore any incoming MIDI messages to make Logic happy. This must not happen with some other DAWs because the example I copied did not include the code below and others seem to have used it successfully. I added the code below right after "void loop(){" and my Teensy controller now works with Logic. // MIDI Controllers should discard incoming MIDI messages. while (usbMIDI.read()) { // read & ignore incoming messages } I found the solution here:https://www.pjrc.com/teensy/td_midi.html

Thanks for the additional suggestions and questions. I think you're onto something asking about my OS. But first... * I first tried plugging my Teensy directly into the Mac (I had been using a hub),using a different USB cable and got the same behavior. * I do have other MIDI devices (Keystation 88 Keyboard, LPD8 Controller) and they all keep working fine when Logic is running. * When I'm in Logic, and look at Preferences \ MIDI \ Inputs, I see "Teensy MIDI" listed and it is bolded and checked, so Logic sees my Teensy. * I don't know if this is important, but when I connect my Teensy the OS gives me a message saying "Changed Number of MIDI Inputs/Outputs. 5 Inputs, 3 Outputs" and when I unplug it, I get the same message but with "4 Inputs, 2 Outputs". So my Teensy adds both 1 Input and 1 Output, but it only needs to act as in Input to my Mac. But...I am still on Sierra (10.12.6) and running Logic version 10.4.3, both of which are getting a bit old. The reason is that (with the exception of this new issue with my Teensy controller), my system has been absolutely rock solid; no Logic crashes, no annoying bugs, everything just works perfectly. I'm due to replace my Mac, and would do so right now, but I want to wait until the new MINI's with Apple Silicon can handle more RAM, so I've been keeping my current system going and not wanting to mess up a good thing. One reason that I suspect my slightly outdated operating system and/or Logic version could be the reason for this strange behavior is that a while back a friend gave me his 2014 Mac MINI to use when I was traveling and that system also has Sierra (10.12.6) and Logic (10.4.4). I just tried my Teensy controller on that system and it exhibited the exact same behavior. I plugged in my Teensy, loaded MIDI Monitor and could see that the small portable MIDI keyboard worked fine before and after Logic was loaded, but my Teensy controller worked fine before Logic started but stopped as soon as I loaded Logic. I'm not sure why this would happen, but it certainly points toward the OS or Logic version as the culprit. So I think I have three options: 1) Not use my Teensy controller until I upgrade to a new Mac MINI with Apple Silicon and more RAM (hopefully in the next year?) 2) Upgrade my Mac's operating system and Logic (perhaps to Mojave - but I'm quite hesitant to do this!) 3) Try loading my Teensy with software that makes it look like an MCU (https://github.com/tttapa/Control-Surface#readme) and see if that makes any difference. Thanks again for the very helpful suggestions. Please let me know if you disagree with my conclusions above, or if you have other options I could consider to resolve this issue with my current OS & Logic.

Thanks again for the helpful responses. Based on the comments and suggestions here's what I've done: 1) I had been using MIDI Monitor to look at the Teensy Port directly, but I tried the "spying" option as well. Both times I could see MIDI data from my Teensy before starting Logic, but it stopped as soon as Logic started up. I don't think there's any Port conflicts as my MIDI Keyboard appears to be using Port1 and Port2 and my Teensy is listed as using a Port called Teensy MIDI. 2) I tried two other stand-alone music applications instead of Logic. Both Orchestral Tools' SINE player and EastWest's Engine recognized my Teensy MIDI controller and the Teensy kept on working when the stand-alone players were running. It was fun to play a VI and be able to use my new controller! But again, as soon as I launched Logic, I stopped seeing any data from the Teensy. 3) I looked at my "control surface setup" window in Logic. I don't have any control surfaces installed, but I tried checking "Bypass All Control Surfaces" anyway. Unfortunately that didn't make any difference. 4) My Teensy is set up as a MIDI device as cmrick suggested. And it shows up as a MIDI Input in SINE and the EW Engine, just not in Logic. I should note MIDI Monitor stops showing any data coming from my Teensy controller as soon as Logic starts, and it doesn't come back after I close Logic. The only way I can get it going again is to reboot my Mac. So whatever is going on, does not correct itself when Logic is no longer running. I've done the experiment more than half a dozen times now and every time my Teensy sends CC data to my Mac until Logic starts and then immediately stops doing so. Any other suggestions? This is very strange...

Thanks for the helpful suggestions. It definitely provided some insights, but I'm not quite there yet. I installed Snoize's MIDI Monitor and here's what I found; When I first boot up my Mac, MIDI Monitor can see all of the CC messages sent by my Teensy Controller (as well as those from my MIDI Keyboard, Mod wheel, etc). But after I start Logic, MIDI Monitor still sees all the messages sent from my MIDI Keyboard, Mod wheel, etc), but it no longer sees any signals from my Teensy controller. So something is happening when I start Logic that is preventing my Teensy controller from functioning. You previously suggested I ensure that nothing in my control surface setup is set to the MIDI ports my Teesy is sending on, but I'm not sure how to do that. I looked at the "Audio MIDI Setup" utility and although my Teensy MIDI controller shows up, I can't edit anything (like ports). Any suggestions for next steps will be much appreciated.

Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I haven't "set up" the device at all. I just plugged it into my Mac and then started Logic. I hoped that the signals from the Teensy would be recognized but they are not. Is there something I need to do in order for Logic to see this as a generic MIDI controller?

I just built a MIDI CC controller with five 100mm sliders and a foot-pedal using this thread as a guide (https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/1240121-diy-midi-cc-controller-w-100mm-sliders-under-100-2018-edition.html#post15325303). Using MIDI-OX (on my Windows laptop) I can see that all sliders are outputting CC values between 1 and 127 perfectly, and there are no "extraneous" signals when I'm not moving a slider. All great so far. When I plugged the controller into my Mac and powered up Logic, the Teensy controller was not recognized and therefore didn't work. I looked at Logic\Preferences\Control Surfaces and my AKAI LPD8 shows up but not the Teensy. When I looked at Logic\Preferences\MIDI, I did see "Teensy MIDI" listed with a check in the ON column (and it was BOLDED) so the Teensy was recognized at some level by Logic. I then went to Logic\Control Surfaces\Setup\New but I didn't see the Teensy in the list of options to install and don't know how I could add it. Has anyone used a custom Teensy controller with Logic? If so, I'd greatly appreciate any advice! After the time I put into this project it would be disappointing if I couldn't use it with Logic.

Just bumping this thread to see if anyone has any updates on this bug. This still happens to me all the time and it's extremely annoying. Please developers - fix this bug!

In mid-August I upgraded my version of Logic Pro X to 10.3.2 and in my last project I had this exact same problem over and over. It drove me nuts! I'd think I was editing the volume automation curve, but it wouldn't change the volume of the track, and then I'd notice that the track had somehow changed from "Volume" to "Ch. 1; Modulation", even though I already had a Modulation curve drawn that looked completely different. I found this thread from earlier this year and I can't believe that such a serious bug has not been corrected by now. Does anyone know the status of a fix for this Bug? Is there a work-around other than constantly checking my tracks? I now wish I hadn't updated my version of Logic Pro X. Thanks in advance for any help or insights.