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Ah thanks for that. I had a quick look at that thread. So am I right about Logic MA dynamics being a compressor and Ozone Maximiser being a limiter?

I've previously fumbled around with Ozone to attempt some degree of basic mastering and now I'm trying to understand how exactly the loudness knob works in the Logic Pro mastering plugin. I assume it is essentially a master buss compressor with automatic gain adjustment? It will squash the signal until it meets the loudness target, right? So if you push it too far you won't get clipping but you'll get nasty compression artifacts? I think that's what I'm hearing. So does that make it different from Maximiser in Ozone, for example, which is a limiter? When I set the threshold too low on that I get lots of clipping instead. So would I be correct in thinking that Ozone and Logic MAs take quite different approaches? Ozone MA doesn't even insert a compressor module by default for me, if I want one I have to add it myself. But Logic puts one straight in? I'm wondering why they've taken these different approaches.

Ah ha... I was like "no, no I've checked that. I can see the master fade is at zero, it can't be that..." and then I checked automation and I had some automation drawn in from ages ago that set the master at +2.6 dB. God knows why! Thank you.

I think we're talking at cross purposes here, that's exactly what I've done. Your UI looks slightly different from mine (different version?) but as you can see here, I have the ceiling set at -1.0 dB. That was the point of my original post, I'm trying to understand why Logic says I have a peak of 0.2 dB if I've set it to -1.0 dB in Ozone Maximiser.

Thanks. Good point, yes I could just use Maximizer. I was using the Assistant and a couple of the other modules originally but then ended up switching them off. When you say there's a setting for Peak Out, I'm not seeing that... you don't mean where you set the Ceiling to you (above the threshold setting)? I'm not sure how setting the ceiling to -0.1 would help if I'm aiming for -1.0 dB?

I'm trying to use the Ozone Maximiser to bounce at the highest level I can without clipping. I'm setting the ceiling to -1.0 dB in Maximiser, but the Master channel in Logic Pro shows me a peak of 0.2 dB and it turns red... which seems worrying. I'm sure there's probably some technical thing I don't understand here, probably to do with how you measure peak signal level? Can anyone explain what's happening and if I should believe Ozone or Logic in this case? Thanks!

Yeah still like this for me after almost 2 years. I guess if we know the sample rate (e.g. 48kHz) then we could just calculate it by dividing the number of samples of latency by the sample rate? So if a plugin has latency of 200 samples then that would be 200/48000 = about 4ms?

iMac i9, MacOS 13.6.4, Logic 10.8.1

I'm playing around with varispeed and live loops and finding Logic is crashing every minute or two. Seems very unstable with this (normally fine). Is varispeed just very hard on the CPU, does anyone else do this, am I just being a bit ambitious or is it likely to be a specific bug with my project?

Another thing that added to my confusion is that the distortion can be set to 'Clipping' but clipping definitely doesn't do anything unless the limiter comes in... All my vocals set to 'Clip' by default I think so no problem there in this case.

Yes! Exactly that. Thank you. I had assumed that because the Distortion is located directly underneath the limiter that it was setting the type of clipping affect produced by the limiter. My track doesn't go anywhere near the limiter so I mistakenly thought there wouldn't be any distortion added. I've been thinking that for years now, d'oh! Better go back and see if I really want distortion on my vocals too 😉

I've got a finger-picked acoustic guitar part and I'm trying to slightly reduce the level when the vocal comes in. I've tried to do this with the Logic compressor side-chained to the vocal. However I'm noticing that I can't avoid the compressor affecting the signal even when there is no vocal. I have Input gain set to zero, Make-up gain set to zero (auto-gain off), and output gain set to zero. But still when I toggle the bypass switch I hear a louder and (to my ears) slightly coloured signal on the guitar track. So 2 questions really: (1) what's the best way of setting this up, is there another way to do auto-ducking? I did think of volume automation but seems a bit labour-intensive? (2) just curiosity really but why does the compressor introduce gain when make-up gain is set to zero? Thanks

I am late to the party, but I've just installed Pluginsearch and it's a real game changer. Can't quite believe how much quicker it makes it to set up projects. Brilliant.

OK will give it a go and see how easy it is to sync!

Yeah so what I'm trying to achieve is some way between the two. Like a live loop recording but with each different part recorded separately. I won't be playing each part in one take all through the track. Some of the parts might be loops, like me playing the shaker, for example, which I might show for the first 2 bars. Then move to the piano. Or whatever. I'm pretty sure I have seen video performances like this before. Will have to see if I can find an example.