nightjar

Thanks for the info. I wouldn't have stated "The Plug-in Manager now includes a Format column.." as Apple did in the 10.8 Release Notes. It's still labeled the Version column... hence the confusion. Not a big deal.. but I spent some time trying to find/enable this 10.8 change.

Hmmm.. so only AUv3 show this indication? Not a single one of my plugins have any indications after the version number.... so those not native Logic Pro" are therefore presumptively all AUv2... Not quite as informative as I would have liked.

One of the new features in Logic 10.8 is a Plugin Manager getting a new column called "Format". From release notes: The Plug-in Manager now includes a Format column to differentiate Logic Pro, AUv2, and AUv3 plug-ins. I am not seeing this new column nor any way to enable it. What's the trick??

ha!

You might want to also explore Studio One as that "fall back" option I'm sticking with Logic.. BUT... if I had to.. Studio One would be my PC pick over Cubase

The "track limit point of failure" can be usually be avoided by freezing tracks...so this wasn't my main intent of the stress test. I was curious about the "active load" for my typical use. With plugins wanting to "talk to each other" (iZotope), freezing tracks is not an option. So.... Also I was curious about the relative CPU efficiency of Studio One & Cubase, as compared to Logic & Pro Tools which are the main DAW's I use. Studio One is coming on strong and I am spending more & more time with it. And liking it very much. Cubase is something that I hadn't spent much time with in recent years, so when the cross grade promo happened a few months ago, I thought I'd revisit. The built-in Audio Alignment feature intrigued me (vs using Revoice). Overall, my curiosity with Cubase was satisfied and I don't see myself spending much time with it.

34 to 61 is roughly the inverse correlation of the Core Utilization scores of 36.8 to 15.6... nice to see logic prevail..

Running on 2018 MacBook Pro, i9, 32gig ram. Current versions (Sep 1, 2019) of MacOS 10.14.6 Current versions (Sep 1, 2019) of Logic, ProTools, StudioOne, Cubase. Current versions (Sep 1, 2019) of all plugins, iZotope, Native Instruments, Superior Drummer3 25 track session built in each DAW using just 3rd party plugins. Buffer 128 5 Audio tracks with Nectar 3 5 Audio tracks with Neutron 3 10 Instrument tracks with Kontakt 5 Instrument tracks with Superior Drummer 3 Intel Power Gadget results: Core Utilization (Lower better) Logic: 15.6 Pro Tools: 19.0 Studio One: 24.5 Cubase: 36.8 Temperature (Lower better) Logic: 74.4 Pro Tools: 72.7 Studio One: 84.0 Cubase: 83.6 Power (Lower better) Logic: 14.69 Pro Tools: 15.06 Studio One: 25.19 Cubase: 29.33 Frequency (Lower better) Logic: 3.18 Pro Tools: 3.02 Studio One: 4.08 Cubase: 3.65

With my 2018 6-core i9 MBP using Logic Pro 10.4.6 At 44.1 and 128 Buffer, built in audio I'm getting 76 tracks.

Do a save before you re-freeze your track if you've made changes to a plug-in.

About dynamic plug-in loading in Logic Pro X Logic Pro X 10.4.5 only loads the plug-ins and software instruments needed to play the project, which helps projects open faster. Dynamic plug-in loading helps projects with a lot of plug-ins and software instruments open faster. When you open a project, Logic analyzes the project and makes only the tracks needed for playback active. Here are the types of tracks Logic makes active when you open a project: Audio tracks that have audio regions (not including frozen tracks) Software instrument tracks that have MIDI regions (not including frozen tracks) Tracks with input monitoring turned on Tracks with plug-ins that generate sound without requiring any input (such as the Test Oscillator) Tracks with external or ReWire inputs Tracks with plug-ins and software instruments not needed for playback are inactive and dimmed in the Mixer. When you select an inactive track, Logic loads the plug-ins on that track. Logic also loads plug-ins on an inactive track when you do things like add a region to the track, unfreeze a frozen track, or add a plug-in to an inactive track. Manually make tracks inactive and active You can manually make tracks inactive to save system resources. Press and hold the Option key, then click the On/Off button in the track header in the Main window. If you don't see the On/Off button in the track header, choose Track > Configure Track Header, then select On/Off. When you make a track with audio regions inactive, you also make turn off the track’s audio regions. If you close then reopen the project, the whole track remains inactive until you manually activate it. To manually activate a channel, click the track header On/Off button in the Main window. In the Mixer, click an empty Audio Effect slot, then choose Activate Channel. Turn off dynamic plug-in loading You can turn this setting off for each project: Open your project Choose File > Project Settings > General, then deselect "Only load plug-ins needed for project playback."

Killer feature for me is Dynamic Plugin Loading! Have a session with lots of frozen VI tracks? It will open MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH faster! Fantastic.. thanks Apple!

Comparing specs between "new" version on US site, and "current" version on UK site... everything is either the same or better with the "new" US specs... EXCEPT... number of Space Designer presets is LOWER with the US version. So.. fun speculation... maybe new Space Designer with thinned-out presets for some reason????