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Cool thanks I'll check that out, wonder if wireless is bluetooth or wifi or both. I wouldn't doubt it if the elves on the Logic team have it pretty much ready to go for their instruments, as they did with MPE when MPE controllers first started showing up, Linnstrument, Keith McMillan, Roli. Apple has been announcing new Logic versions in the spring, but can't help thinking that if it's ready they would roll it out on an incremental. I imagine Arturia has it planned for a much needed new Keylab series, along with their vintage synth collection. All speculation, but I'm interested because it could get me back to using soft synths - I need knobs and sliders!

Thanks for checking that. It sounds like a CYA for NI. They may not want to say much about it at this point since there aren't many 2.0 virtual instruments, other than Korg's Wavestate and I think the Kontakt stuff. Loopop, I think, was showing how the Korg worked with Kontakt plugins via 2.0. If they promise something in the manual, like controlling VIs, some people may complain about it not working with their plugins.

Hi there, thanks for the long reply. Unfortunately it didn't address my question, rather instructed me how to think about it. I've been doing this a long time, as have many on the forum, so you really needn't have taken the time. A couple follow up comments. How is fewer than 76 keys not professional? Countless professional keyboard players use synths that are fewer than 76 keys. I can't even think of a synth with 76 keys other than the hydrasynth deluxe (73) and workstations, which are synth(ish). Certainly no analog synths that I am aware of have >= 76 keys. Many organs have fewer than 76 keys. Most synths are typically 61, 49, or 37 (e.g. Mini Moog, known to grace the stage and studio of at least a few professionals). A quick check of any online store would confirm that. Maybe you're talking about pianos? If so, why would you need MIDI 2.0 for a piano? I suppose there would be some cases but it's not really the point. NI Kontrol 3 is available now. Sweetwater, 61 keys available now. Korg Key Station in a few weeks. And of course probably everyone on this forum knows about the perils of V1 of anything, but thanks for the reminder. And yes, everyone "should read" about what they are buying and how various technologies interact, which of course I do. But thanks for the reminder. So my questions remain: Has anyone heard anything about the status of Logic instruments and MIDI 2.0? Second, does anyone know of other virtual instruments that are or are planned to implement it soon?

Now that there are a couple full size midi 2.0 keyboard controllers out - Korg and NI - I'm wondering what that means for Logic, since there's tick box for it in prefs. Any news on this? I'm looking at both, but want to be sure that there are enough 2.0 plugins. Will be interesting to see how long various companies take. I imagine Arturia will be announcing an MPE/MIDI 2 keyboard along with their plugins being 2.0. I tried using their integrated keyboard/plugin mapping, but without an indication on the keyboard, it's too much looking up and down and trying to figure what goes with what on each different plugin. Serum will probably be soon, as it was with MPE. I'm not a Kontakt user, but I know their stuff is. News from any others?

The PA installation manager doesn't indicate versions or if there are updates, from what I can see. I checked the Amek and it was 1.2 and the PA site said 1.3 is the latest, so I just downloaded and installed all of them. This is a relatively new computer, just set it up in the summer, so they would be recent. It does seem more like a CPU problem than incompatibility though. I can't launch, or even open them in a track if the playhead is moving. Oh well, plenty of alternatives. Thanks for the response.

Brainworx plugins aren't crashing Logic, quite, but I have to stop Logic to launch them. If I try to open one in a channel if the playhead is moving I get an error that Logic has encountered a problem with the plugin and must quit. Every time. October 2023

Problem solved. There was a Launchpad control surface still in prefs. I deleted that and it's working.

I now remember why I was creating cells in tracks. It seems that's the only way to give different tracks different cell criteria, like whether to play after start, or takes, etc, is to create cells with those criteria.

With all of polanoid's excellent advice I was off on a test run this morning with some mess around cells and longer solos in the arrange window, but then this happened again. It's a brand new iPad 12.9", not necessarily that that would have anything to do with it. I'll call Apple and see if I can talk with someone in Logic. It's a problem with either Logic or Logic Remote.

Right on, thank you! I thought you had to create cells to enter the criteria. This did the trick. I got a 12.9" iPad just to do loops, but was going to return it after I didn't think that live recording this way was possible, now I'll keep it and dig into LL more. Cheers.

Thanks for all your help! In this video I have the count in set to 2 bars, and the clip length is 4 bars, so it should theoretically start at 1:1 if I click in bars 3 or 4. But as you can see, record starts on the next full bar within the loop, then instead of starting to record at 1:1, it plays. So the count-in doesn't seem to make any difference. If it's working for you, there must be some setting that I've missed.

I don't suppose you have any idea if Ableton will do this? I just don't know how anyone can record live without the loop starting to record at 1:1. I really don't want a looper/loop station, just the ability to record into cell from start.

Does it only start at the 1:1? For me if there's a 1 bar count in it will start during the loop, so it's impossible to get a four bar loop.

Hi, yes, but count-in only works when the scene is initially stopped. I want to be able to record into a cell while the scene is playing. If it had these options it would work: Start recording: Cell start (1:1) Stop recording: Play But unfortunately, the only options are quantize start values and as I can see they all start recording during the loop.

That's only a workaround though for midi files. Audio files don't have a merge function, which allows it to play on the next loop. I get the idea that not many people are actually using Live Loops other than showing them on YouTube. Any forum I post to with Live Loops questions I get crickets. Sham because it has a ton of potential, but not being start recording at 1:1 while the scene is playing makes it pretty much worthless for live work for me. I'll check out Ableton/Push, but I hate to do that having used Logic for so many years.