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  1. Absolutely unreal. There's no way at this point they're not aware of it... so they must be purposefully ignoring it. The question is why? Is it genuinely not fixable? So frustrating.
  2. Knowing this is still an active topic, affecting so many people, gives me hope that Apple will fix it in an upcoming release. Speaking of- I just noticed there’s a huge update available- I’ll check it out and see if maybe this is addressed 🤞🏼
  3. I have submitted the bug report as well. Crazy to me this is still going on after so many years. Here’s to hoping our feedback is read and they fix it!
  4. Thank you both! Any insight into this is much appreciated, for myself and others. Hopefully we can replicate the problem and pinpoint some workarounds. Or potentially get Apple’s attention (I know that may be a long shot given this issue has existed for 10 or more years.)
  5. SCG, thanks for your input into this. Yes I’m still here and unfortunately still encountering this often. My (awful) workaround is to put an instance of Shaperbox at the end of EVERY single bass channel. This particular project has over 20 unique sounds that need to be fed to the same sidechain… so that means I have 20+ instances of Shaperbox running. Let me tell you how fun it is when you want to make changes to one… then have to apply it 20+ times to all the others so they match. 10+ years with Logic and Ableton keeps calling my name from the corner…….
  6. Hi all, Logic Pro user for 10 years. This is a subject that has been discussed for years, across multiple forums, some say it's fixed- others say it isn't. The problem doesn't always happen on each project or the same in each situation. I've put on my deep-dive detective hat and all this is making me want to scream. The problem involves something to do with Logic's supposedly broken and supposedly fixed Plugin Delay Compensation and things sounding dramatically different based on if plugins are on the channels or the mix bus (for reference, my Plug-In Latency Compensation is set to "All".) My Logic version is 10.7.1 but I have been able to replicate this problem on 10.7.5 on my Macbook. Basically, in a large project, if I have a sidechain plugin such as ShaperBox or Kickstart on all the individual channels within a summing stack, things sound just fine. Groove gets moving and things sound in-time. In the current project I'm working on, there are 10+ bass channels within the summing stack. Instead of having 10+ instances of ShaperBox, I'd rather have just one on the mix bus. Nothing revolutionary here, this is basic stuff. However, when I disable all the ShaperBox plugins on the channels, and instead turn it on the mix bus, it's not even close to the same. Everything is different. The timing is certainly off. It all happens sooner and also seems like it cuts the sound off quicker vs. more gradually in the channels example. See picture below. I've experimented bouncing examples to study the waveforms with the Plugin Delay Compensation set to "Audio and Software Instrument Tracks" instead of "All". When this is set, the sidechain on mix bus example matches the waveform of the sidechain on channels example. So something within the PDC setting is messing things up. This has led me to draw these hypotheses- PDC set to "All" is either incorrectly adjusting the mix bus latency sidechain timing, OR is correctly adjusting it and providing evidence that it was never being adjusted on the channels in the first place. If you're confused at this point... so am I. Basically, I don't know how to move forward when I can't get the sidechain timing to match up because latency is being affected somewhere within Logic's PDC settings. I certainly like the sound when everything is just on the channels, but then this makes me wonder if I should ever be doing anything on a bus due to Logic's errors and/or inconsistency. It is also obviously much more convenient and simple to have one instance of something on a mix bus rather than 10+ instances on channels. Any help, experience with or information on this subject would be greatly appreciated!
  7. I don't use region based automation, everything is track based. The issue is that even if I bounce in place the software instrument tracks- the issue is taking place on the group bus they are all going to. So the same result will happen.
  8. I'm about to lose it. As many do, I have right-angles within my automation. Sometimes, at these right-angle points, Logic forgets to automate. I am currently trying to bounce my entire track to send off for professional mastering and every single time- at the exact same point near the end, and on the exact same set of bus tracks, Logic does not return the automation to normal. I have tried everything to fix this: adjusted audio buffer size down to 1024, tried setting plug-in latency compensation to 'all', tried putting little micro automation curve ramps at the right angle point, nothing works. Oddly- if I play back the track from 30 seconds prior to the problem point, the problem does not occur. But when playing back the 6 minute track from the beginning, or bouncing from the beginning, the problem occurs at 5:07. I should add- I am on paid legit Logic 10.6.1. I am aware there is an update available, but am afraid to update until completing this project. Sometimes I'm so upset with myself that I invested 10,000+ hours into learning production on this program and not Ableton. It's insane that as professional audio engineers we have to deal with issues like these. I have tried everything under the sun and do not know what the culprit is- or what to do. Please help, thank you. Also included is a dropbox link to a video of it happening. At the end of the video, you can see the automation should return to normal per the right-angle points, but does not if you look at the numbers on the left side of the screen. Included a screenshot as well. https://www.dropbox.com/s/xb89bx2tu226c8y/IMG_6792.mp4?dl=0
  9. Hi guys. I am on Logic 10.6.1 and Catalina 10.15.7. I am having trouble A/Bing using the compare button in Logic. In the past, I could open a plugin- say an EQ for instance- make some changes then push "compare" to reset back to where I started (A). THEN I could click "compare" again and go back to my changes (B). Pushing the button repeatedly simply provided an A/B back and forth so I could tell if my changes were good or not. Now, when I push the "compare" button the first time it resets to where I started (A), but pushing it again does nothing. I am stuck at where I started (A). I have been using the copy function at the (B) stage to work around this but what a pain. This is happening within every plugin in Logic, both factory and 3rd party. Maybe there are some sort of preferences or script I need to reset somewhere? Or could just be a bug. No clue, but annoying. Thanks for any help!
  10. I've googled this up and down. This happens to me all the time when writing and later rewriting- say I have two completely different regions with different notes and midi patterns. I like the notes and melody from the first region but want them to have the pattern and rhythm from the second region. I'm strictly talking about the timing and length of the notes here. Is there a way to just copy the pattern only from the other region and convert my existing notes that I like into that rhythm? If I didn't explain that well enough- Region A- has whole notes Region B- has completely different notes and they're 1/16 notes In this example I simply want to have region a's notation have region b's midi pattern. This might not sound important but when I find myself in this situation I go through a painstaking process of COPYING the second region, pasting into the first region and dragging them an octave lower/changing velocity for color, and then chopping all the correct notes to match the pattern beneath. Huge pain... there has to be an easier way. Thank you!
  11. Hey guys. I've been producing for a long time but just realized something I've always done for convenience could potentially be causing mix problems. I've Googled it up and down and it seems to turn into a pretty technical debate regarding phase issues? It's hard to explain, unsure but maybe you can help shed some light: Every song I've ever created and exported EVER- I use Logic 9's Legacy Low Pass and High Pass filters within Logic X. The Legacy ones because I don't like how they've changed the name to "Single Band EQ" with a low cut and high cut setting within it- it's much easier to see the legacy Low Pass And High Pass as separate plugins in the mixer. I keep these legacy filters turned ON all the time, but usually the frequency slider is at its max setting so it's not actually doing anything. At least it's not SUPPOSED to be doing anything. The reason for all this is simply automation convenience. When I want to automate a filter it's right there ready to go using the frequency slider. It makes workflow super fast this way. I have these filters across nearly every channel and bus in my mix, INCLUDING the master channel. Again I didn't think it was doing ANYTHING leaving the plugin on but with the frequency slider at its max open position. However I started messing around with tests on the master channel and noticed the second I turn either plugin on, it causes a mastered song to slightly clip on a meter. Turn it off- and the song goes right back down. This got me thinking- if the filters being left on are clearly altering the gain, what else are they altering? So of course I auditioned several test tones and A/Bd turning the filters on and off. With a sub bass test, I swear it is SLIGHTLY weaker when turning the low pass on vs. off. This should seem obvious being it's a low pass filter, but with the frequency all the way open at 20000Hz shouldn't it not be doing anything? After testing repeatedly now I can't tell if my ears are playing tricks on me. In other threads and forums, some were saying that leaving ANY filter on immediately alters the phase of the sound and causes a slight Q "bump" at the cutoff point therefore what's responsible for the gain increase. These turned into huge debates so I couldn't get a definitive answer as to what's actually going on. TLDR: For automation convenience is leaving Low Pass and High Pass filters "ON" but not actually filtering until needed, across my channels busses and master altering the sound/mix and/or causing phase changes? Thank you all so much for your help on such a silly thing.
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