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I've cloned my main system drive and my external virtual instrument plugins drive. Next to this, I back my new songs up daily to yet another external drive

I really hope that the rumours I'm hearing about the new Mac Mini ( dubbed 'The Super' ) are someway close to being accurate. First up, it looks as if they're addressing the lack of memory options, which was a big factor in keeping me from buying an M1 based system, with a max of only 16GB ram. As I use a lot of virtual instruments and very large sample libraries in my compositions, the 16GB ceiling was a concern with the M1 units, and I'm pleased to discover that the Mini will have options of up to 64GB of the new type of super efficient ram ( a major drawback of the M1 solved for me, at least ). The new cpu with 12 cores is set to add even more impressive performance to what was already exceptional with the M1 and this, again, will only help my cpu heavy workflow. The added ports will also be a help, but I do tend to run hubs off of each port anyways, drastically increasing the number of inputs available to me, so I don't see this as being hugely different from what I do already. The only thing that matters to me now, is when will this beautiful little beast actually appear ?

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Triplets and Atlas ... Ahh, ok, that makes sense ...and thanks for clarifying.

... And 'Live Mode' ?

... Yes, I was referring to the new Mac Pro, Des99 ( I must ensure I'm a little more accurate in what I write here ). I can quite afford to buy one of these units, make no mistake ( could buy a few comfortably, for the record, not that this matters one jot ! ). However, it's the principle of the matter for me - the pricing just seems very 'greedy' from Apple, but I digress ... I have a couple of close friend's that will no doubt invest in one or two of these new gen Mac Pros' for their studios pretty much immediately, if they haven't done so already, but wouldn't it be great if one of these powerful units was priced at a point available to the student/home studio owner perhaps around the £2k - £2.5k mark ? A Mac that would offer plenty of grunt for their projects without running out of puff ? I guess time will tell ... I'm still a bit flummoxed by this 'Live Mode' you've referred to a couple of times. What is this and how does it impact cpu situation ?? Cheers.

' It's been reported that many third party vendors would only wrap their VST coded plugin into AudioUnit, instead of actually rewriting/converting them to that latter format. Same could understandably hinder their CPU resource efficiency'. ... I think this is potentially a serious factor in the cpu hit, Atlas007 ( well cited ! ). Des99, my Mac Mini is indeed an older 2012 ( network ) unit - picked it up for an absolute bargain ... However, I had the hard disks replaced with 2 x SSDs and upped the memory to the max. It does have an i7 cpu too, albeit the older, original architechture ... I chose this as an inexpensive way to enter the Mac World and t cut my teeth on Logic. Itwas my intention to go for one of the new Power Macs once I felt up to speed with Logic Pro. However, I've been utterly horrified by the pricing structure of the range of Power Mac's - I think Apple have gone and lost their heads, quite frankly. Are thy no aware of the global pandemic and the sheer hit just about every global ecomony is going to be taking in the very near future ?! Almost £6k for the basic model is ......g !! ridiculous. Thanks again everyone ...

Triplets ... as I'm very much finding out. Yes, I hadn't really given much thought to the graphics card, tbh. I'm just about to load Cubase 10.5 Pro on to my Mac, so it will be interesting to see how well it run on this platform. I've spent a fair bit of time looking at ways to both maximise and streamline Logic Pro X to get the most out of it, but like any new software, there's a learning-curve. I wrote in Cubase from way back when it was Cubasis, but a number of people I'm currently helping and collab with all use Logic. I decided to learn the software and there are many apsects to the progam I really like so far, but much frustration as Islow to crawl again and again with just workflow, navigational matters ... That's where sites like this great resource becomes invaluable. Thanks again.

... ' one DAW is not going to run head and shoulders above the other in terms of how many instruments/plugins you can run (given comparable settings like buffer sizes, sample rates and so on), as each third-party plugin will take the CPU it needs to run and these will be essentially the same for any given plugin'. That would of been my expectation, but that hasn't proved to be the case in my recent experience. My projects in Cubase were all 32bit float, 44.1khz. I set my Logic to the same. As regards systems specs, my PC is a i7 ( 2.4 ghz ) quad core, along with 16gb DDR3 ram and 1TB SSD from Samsung. My Mac Mini is the virtually the same specs. My audio device is the same on both systems ( Focusrite Scarletts ). Buffer set to 128 on all projects and I start with a template of 16 midi tracks and 8 audio tracks - the same on both machines. I have Kontakt, Spectrasonics ( Omni 2.5 and Trillian ), Roland, Korg ( Triton and Wavestation ), East West Play and String Ensemble loaded up automatically on both ... CPU overhead hangs at 7% in Cubase, but a whopping 40% in Logic and that's before I start recording ! These are startling differences.

...And thanks, Fuzzfilth ... this will save me a lot of cpu.

Yes, totally Des99 ... there is indeed very much to learn. 'Live Mode' ??

Hi all ... I'm still a newb to Logic and trying to get to grips with many of it's functions. I'm enjoying the transitition from Cubase, but there are many little frustrations in terms of workflow that I'm having to try and find my way around. One of my biggest problems currently is resources and quickly maxing out the cpu ! I don't want to get into a Logic v Cubase debate, but one thing I'm really noticing is how much worse Logic is with third party plug ins ...My Mac is similarly spec'd to what my PC is ( both contain Intel i7 cpu's and run on SSD with 16gb ram ), but I find logic max's out with only a couple of instances of certain Roland plugs ins /virtuals, whilst in Cubase I can run a few more of the same in any given project. So, lookiing at ways to reduce cpu load, one thing I can't figure out is how to use the same loaded instrument on a number of midi tracks. In Logic, it seems it has to open a fresh instance of an instrument for any new track you load -this seems like a massive waste of cpu resource. In Cubase, I would open Kontakt and can have the instrument on any number of midi tracks ... Is there a way to do similar in Logic ? This would help massively if it can be done ... Many thanks in advance.

Yeah, I just realised, Des99 ... Think I'll stick with 10.4.8 once I've got my controller communicating again.

Ahh, this might explain why my update fails ... I just get the working symbol going around and around for ages when I hit the update button in App Store. I run Logic 10.4.8 on High Sierra, but thought I'd try the latest ... I did do a compress logic first, so there is a zipped copy of it. However, mine will not update.

I've tried unplugging it and re-connecting, but to no avail. 'Fixing th midi port' ... ? I connect via a usb cable and don't mess with it at all. My Keylab88 doesn't have a control surface setup option that I can see.