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Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:45 am

Hi all,
I've seen this before, somehow managed to fix it, but not this time.
I'm trying to run a guitar direct onto an audio track. I have Software Monitoring enabled.
When the transport is inactive, I hear the guitar through the effects. If I hit play, the fx disappears and I only get the direct sound from my audio interface. If I hit record, the fx are there again.
What am I missing?

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Re: Software Monitoring problem  Topic is solved

Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:34 am

First, you should disable the monitoring from your audio interface, so that you don't mix that with software monitoring. So in Logic, disable software monitoring, and set up your interface's software so that you don't hear your guitar at all. Then you can re-enable software monitoring.

Now to make sure you hear your guitar during playback, toggle Record > Auto Input Monitoring.
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:04 am

Hi David,

Didn't work. My FF guitar input is input 12, I've tried muting it and lowering the fader so I couldn't hear anything, re-enabled software monitoring. Same behaviour as before.
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:29 am

Glenn Lancaster wrote:
Hi David,

Didn't work. My FF guitar input is input 12, I've tried muting it and lowering the fader so I couldn't hear anything, re-enabled software monitoring. Same behaviour as before.

Do you get any monitoring with software monitoring disabled in Logic? When you press Play? When Logic is stopped?
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:41 am

No;
No, but the track is registering the signal.
Yes.
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:42 am

Glenn Lancaster wrote:
No;
No, but the track is registering the signal.
Yes.

Ok, so you should get NO Monitoring at all when software monitoring is off.
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:44 am

... and just to be clear: Auto Input Monitoring should be OFF.
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:47 am

It is.
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:13 am

David Nahmani wrote:
Glenn Lancaster wrote:
No;
No, but the track is registering the signal.
Yes.

Ok, so you should get NO Monitoring at all when software monitoring is off.


The signal registers but there is no sound.
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:55 am

Right. I plugged the FF into my iMac (10.14.6), which is running Logic 10.5.1, opened Logic and everything worked perfectly. So, I saved the Totalmix snapshot, brought it over to the M1 Mini, and….it didn't work as expected. My audio prefs for Logic are the same on both computers.
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:27 am

I have to conclude that it is the latest OS11 versions (I'm on 11.4). I'm sure this didn,t happen before. On RME's site, there's a thread about problems with the driver and 11.3.1 and up.
Anyway, thanks for trying, David!
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:18 pm

If you use another driver (for example the Mac's built-in audio devices), can you reproduce this issue or does it behave as expected then?
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:51 am

Hi David,
Unfortunately, Minis don't have built in mics and I don't have a usb mic. So, I don't think it's possible.
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:35 am

OK, NAILED THE SWINE!

Look at the screenshot. On some video somewhere, sometime, it was demonstrated that the 'record' button had various modes. So, I had a 'lightbulb' moment, and went and had a look. BINGO! AUTO INPUT MONITORING HAD TO BE UNCHECKED! Bloody 'ell...... :evil: :roll: :)

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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:44 am

...which was recommended verbatim in post#2.

Just sayin'...
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:57 am

:oops:
I didn't understand 'toggle record.' For medical reasons my brain ain't working normally. :cry:

Thanks again, David et al!
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:09 am

Glenn Lancaster wrote:
:oops:
I didn't understand 'toggle record.' For medical reasons my brain ain't working normally. :cry:

Thanks again, David et al!

You're welcome! Just glad to hear you ended up being sorted out, that's what matters.

I completely understand that sometimes, some of my (our) answers may not be 100% clear to the posters asking the questions, however I do wish that when something is unclear, posters would ask for clarification. Communication often ends up working that way. In my ideal world, a question on this forum should/could look something like this:

A: "What's a guzmilakokindakoun?"
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A: "Oh ok... but what's a dakoun?"
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A: "Ah great... so ... and BTW what does guzmilakokined means?"
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A: "Oh ok... so... just a grilled burger?"
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A: "Great, thanks!"
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A: "ME TOO!!!"

Then again... I'm afraid I just showed how my brain may not work "normally" either (whatever a "normal" brain is). :lol:
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:32 am

My brain… I didn't even know there was a name for it. I like it, though. 'Arnold' has a nice 'Green Acres' ring to it.
Thing is, I tried to reset that function unlocked the template before doing so, locked it again, and it re-booted with input monitoring ON.
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:39 am

Input monitoring? Or Auto Input Monitoring? Two different things. The devil's in the details! ;)
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Re: Software Monitoring problem

Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:14 pm

Auto.
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