WLouisMusic Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Hi guys, I usually produce rock music, but as I don't have a real drum kit, I use Logic's midi drum kit instead. In this particular song I'm working on, I thought it would sound more real to change the input mapping from 'GM' to 'GM+Modwheel controls hi-hat opening level'. The problem is, that when I programme a standard 1/8 note rock beat, every second hi-hat sounds really dry, as if I had just removed all the ambient reverb on the kit. And sometimes they cut out completely,.. Any suggestions? I would really love to use this feature but I can't get it to properly work. Thx for any help (LPX 10.5.1, OS 10.14.6, 2014 Mac mini) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Can you attach an example of a project that has this issue so that we can inspect the MIDI data on the track? How to attach files to your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLouisMusic Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 In this file I have created as a test, I have used the exact same drumkit as in my actual project, but I have created this for simplicity. The hi-hat notes are in straight 8th notes, but I recorded my controllers modwheel, as to change the hi-hat opening, but it cuts out some of the notes. Test1.logicx.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I think it sounds fine here? It doesn't cut out anything, just the lower velocity notes on the upbeats don't ring as much as the other ones, which is to be expected because of their lower velocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLouisMusic Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 Right, I think this might be a problem with the Logic version then? because no matter what I do I just can't get it to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Right, I think this might be a problem with the Logic version then? because no matter what I do I just can't get it to work. It works perfectly fine here, with same OSX and Logic version as you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Right, I think this might be a problem with the Logic version then? because no matter what I do I just can't get it to work. It's hard to tell what you're hearing vs what you're expecting to hear? Can you attach a link to a bounced audio file of what you're hearing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLouisMusic Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 I can't seem to post audio files, but here is a drive link to the bounced file. The hi-hats just cutting in and out. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y7vjbpi1HYhSBighfGStmdmOAS4gfbNJ/view?usp=sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I can't seem to post audio files, but here is a drive link to the bounced file. The hi-hats just cutting in and out. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y7vjbpi1HYhSBighfGStmdmOAS4gfbNJ/view?usp=sharing Oh ok so some notes are just not playing at all on your Mac. It's possible that you're missing some samples? Do you get that issue with all drum kits or just this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLouisMusic Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 I get it with all the drum kits, and the silent notes seem to be different every time, I really have no clue. Do you think a computer upgrade would solve this? I have been meaning to get a new one as my current one is getting sluggish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I get it with all the drum kits, and the silent notes seem to be different every time, I really have no clue. Do you think a computer upgrade would solve this? I have been meaning to get a new one as my current one is getting sluggish. In order to determine what would solve this we need to find the reason why it's doing this, and for that we need to continue troubleshooting. Try to click on the right-hand side of the blue plug-in insert for your Drum Kit Designer and choose Sampler. Open the Sampler plug-in, and see if any samples are missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLouisMusic Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 I don't see a drum kit designer, just the drumkit plugin and it doesn't show any of the samples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 I don't see a drum kit designer, just the drumkit plugin and it doesn't show any of the samples. Where you see "Drum Kit" is actually the Drum Kit Designer plug-in: click-hold the right-hand side of the insert and choose Sampler: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLouisMusic Posted October 6, 2021 Author Share Posted October 6, 2021 Alright, where do I find the samples? I looked in the mapping section, and all 83 of them seem to be there but I'm not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Alright, where do I find the samples? I looked in the mapping section, and all 83 of them seem to be there but I'm not sure In Sampler, click the Zone view button at the top right and see if all zones have a file associated with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLouisMusic Posted October 6, 2021 Author Share Posted October 6, 2021 I checked all of the zones labelled with an 'HH' (I assume that means hihat) and they all are linked to a .caf file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I checked all of the zones labelled with an 'HH' (I assume that means hihat) and they all are linked to a .caf file OK then can you save a copy of that project with the Sampler selected, with all media files selected under "Copy to project", so that I could have a look? How to attach files to your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLouisMusic Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 I'm a bit confused about the copy to project thing, but I chose File > Save A Copy As > and I selected all of the checkboxes so hopefully it should work. Test2.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 I'm a bit confused about the copy to project thing, but I chose File > Save A Copy As > and I selected all of the checkboxes so hopefully it should work. To save the test copy project, choose File > Save As, give it a new name and location on your disk, and then select all the boxes and radio buttons as per below: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLouisMusic Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 Alright the file is too big to attach, but here is a link to it. I have ticked all the boxes and saved is as a folder. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XzEGclO1h5_0mPBoJjjdcQ86JC_MkvQc/view?usp=sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLouisMusic Posted October 15, 2021 Author Share Posted October 15, 2021 I've tried pretty much most things I can think of and I can't get it to work. Though it works fine on my laptop which is much newer, so I think it's a hardware problem. I will probably order the M1x Mac mini when they become available as I am in need of a newer system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Is your Mini a 4gb ram machine ? Take a look at your ram usage in activity monitor when playing the project ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLouisMusic Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 It's a 16gb ram model, the performance depends on the project, but the drum problem doesn't work on any project, big or small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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