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Re: mbp recording internal mic latency

Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:49 am

It ‘feels’ like there is a limiter installed on stereo out that induces latency when using the internal mic. Maybe a safety measure? It is ok for facetime calls etc. but not for recording music for sure.
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Re: mbp recording internal mic latency

Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:13 pm

yeah smth like that. Whatever it all is, I am getting rid of this mbp m1, whatever the improvements may be certain processing power demanding tasks - the way it feels, it's no step up from my mbp 2013.
Maybe this helps someone who is comnsidering a new computer.
 
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Re: mbp recording internal mic latency

Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:18 pm

Did you check your roundtrip figures ?
Logic Pro 10.5.1 • OS X 10.14.6 • MBP 15" Early 2013 • 2.4 GHz Intel Core i7 • 8GB RAM • iMac 27 Late 2013 • 3.4 GHz Intel Core i5 • 16GB RAM • Focusrite Saffire 6 USB • cheap midi keyboard • Korg NanoKontrol • Roland UM-One mkII • Behringer FCB1010 • Gibson ES335
 
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Re: mbp recording internal mic latency

Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:25 am

Bumsi wrote:
yeah smth like that. Whatever it all is, I am getting rid of this mbp m1, whatever the improvements may be certain processing power demanding tasks - the way it feels, it's no step up from my mbp 2013.
Maybe this helps someone who is comnsidering a new computer.


To be fair, the internal mic was not meant to be used for recording music. I wouldn’t use it even if it would not have any latency. (Maybe could be solved with a software update) This machine otherwise is ridiculously powerful and i recommend it. Way more powerful than a computer from 2013. Just load up a few patches from Alchemy on your old computer and start to write a full song. You will run out of processing power soon an your older machine. Cheers.
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Re: mbp recording internal mic latency

Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:36 am

Bumsi wrote:
yeah smth like that. Whatever it all is, I am getting rid of this mbp m1, whatever the improvements may be certain processing power demanding tasks - the way it feels, it's no step up from my mbp 2013.
Maybe this helps someone who is comnsidering a new computer.


Your disappointment from a mic that wasn't meant for quality recordings doesn't warrant you saying the M1 is not a step up from a 2013 laptop.
That mic was designed for Facetime or Zoom chats, nothing else.
Anybody that does field recordings, with quality in mind, does not use a built-in mic from a laptop.
You always use a dedicated mic and interface, or even a USB mic.
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Re: mbp recording internal mic latency

Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:14 am

Thank you for telling me how "anybody does field recordings".
Not quite reading the initially quite precisely articulated problem and answering with some rather untrue generalization (Sorry, I seen Meshell Ndgeocello record a whole lot of demos into her Mbp Mic, which then ended on the album and then some) says everything about you, nothing about me - so I am not offended.
You are simply adding nothing to the discussion.
 
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Re: mbp recording internal mic latency

Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:48 am

To be fair to the new M1 machines. They probably ‘enhanced’ the internal mic (compression, limiter etc) to prevent feedback and have the best experience with the in built mic for the purpose of what they intended it to be used for (facetime,zoom etc. ) unfortunately these improvements crippled it if you try to use it as a field recorder, if latency is important. If we give Apple feedback, they might be able to fix it in the software.
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Re: mbp recording internal mic latency

Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:23 am

Mania, I agree, yes that is exactly what I was implying. I actually think the mic array (it is 3 I believe) sounds fine, it is just that processing, which in itself works amazing - but as so often with user-friendly design, be it a Ui or background processes - would be very interesting and useful to find out how to turn it off.
 
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Re: mbp recording internal mic latency

Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:25 am

Bumsi wrote:
says everything about you, nothing about me - so I am not offended.


So tell me, what does it say about me?
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