skltr2182 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 so can someone explain how to set up the exs24 so that depending on the velocity i play at, it will change the decay of my sample? so when i hit a key softly, i want a very short decay. when i hit a key hard, i want a long decay. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 In Env2, use a very short Decay. Then use the following modulation cell: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skltr2182 Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 that's what i have and it does absolutely nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 It works as expected here. Upload your project file if you want, I'll have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skltr2182 Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 oh i figured it out. you also have to turn the decay on envelope 2 all the way down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 oh i figured it out. you also have to turn the decay on envelope 2 all the way down. To get started, yes. Then you can adjust the Decay slider to the Decay you want with the lowest velocity, which is not necessarily all the way down. And the slider to the right of the modulation cell determines how much longer the Decay will be with the highest velocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skltr2182 Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 got it. that's what i needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdik Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 I do exact as the above but it won't work! Is there a bug in Logic 10.4.6. or what's wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I do exact as the above but it won't work! Is there a bug in Logic 10.4.6. or what's wrong? Can you post a screenshot? How to attach files to your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdik Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Please find attached setup Skärmavbild 2019-08-05 kl. 00.18.28.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 But your Decay is set to zero. You're modulating between zero and zero. You need to raise the Decay in Env2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdik Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Even with higher decay setting it won't do any different on sound. Only when velocity value is set to 1 decay is shorter. When rise to velocity value 2 or more full sound is played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdik Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Try it yourself (or any other user) and you will see it doesn't work as expected anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdik Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Hi Guys, any tip regarding this is appreciated! The EXS24 does not respond to velocity changes when using this setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Hi Guys, any tip regarding this is appreciated! The EXS24 does not respond to velocity changes when using this setup. Feel free to share a project where this is not working for you, and I'll look at it. Meanwhile here's an example of a project where this is working as expected: Velocity-to-Decay.logicx.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdik Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Thanks! I get some subtle changes with the setting used in your project. But I want more! I want to go from minimum to maximum decay. And the setting for this should be like in the file attached. Nothing happens with the decay. Compare this by adjusting the decay by hand while playing the loop (first bypass Destination). That's how it should sound! Velocity-to-DecayMaximum.logicx.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Thanks! I get some subtle changes with the setting used in your project. But I want more! I want to go from minimum to maximum decay. How's that? Just press play to hear the difference between alternating notes of 127 and 1 velocities. Velocity-to-Decay-Extreme.logicx.zip As for your example, you're using an instrument that has velocity layers. That means that as you're playing notes with different velocities you're hearing different samples. So it's normal that you're not getting the same effect as when dragging the decay slider in which case only the decay changes, not the samples played. On top of that the lowest velocity you're using is 32, which is already 1/4 of the range. Set a velocity of 1 and you'll hear the minimum decay value. If you're looking to offset the effect of the decay modulation you can do that, for example to hear even shorter decays with a velocity that's not as low as 1, for example 32. Let me know if that's what you're looking for. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdik Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Thank you for your patience David! I know instrument got velocity layers. I just picked one instrument from the factory library as an example. And you are right it could be confusing! So I'm back with a new example without distractions! I have the same setting in Alchemy and EXS24 for comparison. Alchemy behave just as it should while EXS24 almost immediately rises to maximum decay. Decay Comparison.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 You have the depth range set all the way up to +10000ms, I've lowered it to match the behavior of Alchemy. Keep in mind there's no "right" or "wrong" way here, all synths are programmed differently, and here EXS24 offers a great depth range for that parameter, feel free to use a smaller one: Decay Comparison-adjusted.logicx.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdik Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Keep in mind there's no "right" or "wrong" way here, all synths are programmed differently, and here EXS24 offers a great depth range for that parameter, feel free to use a smaller one Thanks David! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 You're welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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