Eric Cardenas Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Thanks markalex49! Is his recording delay also set to 0 samples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERO Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Back to the problem of recorded audio placed randomly early or late on the main page: I tested this in a new empty project (no plugins) and finally found that the problem is indeed in the Orion 32 driver. Antleope released an update (v.3.00) after LPX 10.2.1 and it seems to have fixed the problem. For now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Thanks ERO. That's very valuable information. Just to clarify this appears to solve issues with Antelope interfaces recording late. The OP's issue is still not solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I've moderated this thread heavily to separate Audio from MIDI issues. MIDI displacement related posts are moved here: 10.2.1 Midi recording timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixerjack Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 Thanks for the mod sir! Will keep you informed on progress here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 You're welcome Mixerjack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixerjack Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 Okay so I've made a bit of a discovery... Changing the plugin delay compensation to Audio & Software Tracks or Off fixes the problem. Obviously if I have any plugins across my mix (particularly UAD) it puts my whole mix outta whack time wise. So it's not a solution, but I suspected it was something to do with this. So if PDC is set to All and I record enble & input monitor I can hear the obvious latency. Switching on Low Latency Mode the audible latency is gone, but the METER lags. I'm sure its this lag that is overcompensated for (like a double round trip or something) and thus the audio timestamp is earlier than it should be. So at least i've found a basic work around but by no means a solution.... I've been a Logic user for over 15 years. Dealt with the headache of configuring it with TDM in major studios and all of its other little quirks. But never in my life have I felt the calling of Pro Tools stronger than I do now! So I'm pleading to any geniuses out there who can help me out with this. I'm 99% sure this came with 10.2.1... Even a zipped copy of the previous version? Can anyone else recreate what's happening here? I'll do a free mix for the lucky sod who can figure this out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixerjack Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 Going to run a test now with software monitoring disabled also.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 So I'm pleading to any geniuses out there who can help me out with this. I'm 99% sure this came with 10.2.1. This is nothing new. If you are using latency inducing plug-ins on aux or outputs and have Plug-in Latency Compensation set to all you have to either use Low Latency mode or make sure that Software Monitoring is off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixerjack Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 Yes that's a given dude! But what I am trying to determine is what cause Logic to place the audio EARLIER than where it should be. So it's clearly plugin delay OVERcompensation.... Right??? I record with Logic on many different platforms from a basic 2channel interface 100% software monitoring to the UAD Apollo mode... to a full 32IO HDX system. So with a plethora of monitoring techniques. This has never happened ever before in any of those scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Try excluding UAD from the equation. Maybe it's an error with their plug-in platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixerjack Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 Updated to 2.2 Appears to have fixed the problem..... Hmmmmm. Will let you know if I run into it again.. Fingers crossed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Keep us posted MJ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixerjack Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 This is still happening... I'm planning a full system re install soon to see if I can rectify this. How is El Capitan these days? Good to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlydoskope Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Are you still having this problem? I had this issue recently (recorded audio shifted to the left/early). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I have the same issue while recording in Low Latency Mode. The monitoring playback is perfectly on time while recording and then the recorded audio is more than slightly nudged forward. I tested how far ahead it was nudging by playing quarter notes, zooming in, and observing. I don't know if your problem will be resolved this way, but I set my Recording Delay to 1200 samples. I only came up with this number by testing quarter notes and the adjusting the number of samples. I'm thinking that this number will be different for everyone based on how much processing power is being used by your session and how much it has to compensate when going into Low Latency Mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmon ratty Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 I have this problem too! Recording plays back rushed, it cuts off the beginning, so yes, OVER compensation. It does it in an empty project with NO Plugins at all. Just one audio track. Has anyone worked out what it is? Using Logic 10.6.3, through UAD -2 Satellite, Focusrite Clarett 8 Pre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 7 hours ago, salmon ratty said: I have this problem too! Recording plays back rushed, it cuts off the beginning, so yes, OVER compensation. It does it in an empty project with NO Plugins at all. Just one audio track. Has anyone worked out what it is? Using Logic 10.6.3, through UAD -2 Satellite, Focusrite Clarett 8 Pre. Have you checked your Audio Preferences if any (negative) Recording Delay is set? Like, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmon ratty Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Hi, thanks - no.. recording delay is at 0 - but the way it behaves is as if it was at -5000 ! buffer size 1024 processing threads 8 multithreading Playback & Live tracks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Buffer size is unnecessarily high I'd think... does it change anything if you go to 128 or 64? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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salmon ratty Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 That does improve but it still chops beginning off. See screenshots, one at 128 , one at 1024. Hope they are clear enough. I tried recording direct into macbook mic, fresh arrangement. So signal going through nothing - that seems to render the audio somewhat late if anything.. Obviously, in capturing a performance of any kind the timing is paramount. To try and guesstimate it afterwards by moving audio around is not good. I need to be able to record precisely, with confidence. That's got to be the primary function of this thing 🤷♂️ It didn't use to be like this, it feels like it may be getting worse. I'm using a macbook pro I've got 812 GB storage available OS Catalina 10.5.7 2.4GHz 8-Core Intel 64 GB Anyway, thanks very much indeed for your suggestions.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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