logic8mine Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 (edited) I run into this from time to time and am looking for a way to correct this without blowing up my project. Logic X and or Kontakt is screwing up my output assignments. As you see in the pic, Kontakt's mixer shows the proper routing. However, in Logic, everything plays back on Track #1. Rebatching Kontakt's outputs has no effect. Not sure how this got out of wack or how to repair it. Edited June 12, 2016 by logic8mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic8mine Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 Hmmmm... must be related to 10.2.3. Battery 3 also has lost its output assignments. Creating new tracks and assignments isn't working either. Checking other projects now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Multi outputs are broken and need to be reassigned, also for Sup Drummer. Major bug, totally unusable for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Stylus RMX and presumably Omnisphere have the same problem. Logic's Ultrabeat seems to work ok, not sure if this is only related to third-party plugins, but yeah, it's a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_deli Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 This is criminal. I use loads of multis. There is no way I can use this update. Faaak. Has anyone narrowed down any conditions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfWein Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I see the same bug here. It only happens when I open old(er) projects. Creating a new project with multi out VIs - save-reopen works fine. I tried the same by creating a project in LPX 10.2.1 - open in 10.2.3 - still works. Opening any of my templates that were created in earlier versions than 10.2.1 (sadly I don't know which version I used) shows the bug. sadly this makes the update unusable for me as well. bug report sent to Apple P.S. this is clearly not a Kontakt bug, but a Logic 10.2.3 bug. I suggest renaming the thread if that's possible - makes it easier for others to find the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic8mine Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 I see the same bug here. It only happens when I open old(er) projects. Creating a new project with multi out VIs - save-reopen works fine. I tried the same by creating a project in LPX 10.2.1 - open in 10.2.3 - still works. Opening any of my templates that were created in earlier versions than 10.2.1 (sadly I don't know which version I used) shows the bug. sadly this makes the update unusable for me as well. bug report sent to Apple P.S. this is clearly not a Kontakt bug, but a Logic 10.2.3 bug. I suggest renaming the thread if that's possible - makes it easier for others to find the thread. So renamed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic8mine Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 Yea, defintely should have backed up 10.2.2 before upgrading. Got a little too excited. Now, pretty much all of my prjoects are unesable without the hassle of first saving the Kontakt, Battery 3 multis, importing markers, tempo, project settings, etc. into new projects and recreating the multi-outputs there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic8mine Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 hmmm... I have a 10.1.1 backup. Anyone know of a way to upgrade it to 10.2.2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 No issues here with NI Machine and Multi Outs. Check on a couple of instances in one song. Song has been around since logic 9.. Almost finished Novation Automap seems to be broken though.. Bounce "include audio tail citing tail short also. Much fixed yay!! OS X 10.11.6 Beta (15G12a) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keano12 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I have stereo tracks from Trillian playing in left speaker when soloed. I changed the output to something else and then put it back to where it was which was correct and it worked. Annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnaud Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Hi all, Someone above said that Ultrabeat seems unaffected by this annoying 10.2.3 bug. Could you let me know whether EXS24 is affected (or not) ? Thanks in advance. Arnaud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Someone above said that Ultrabeat seems unaffected by this annoying 10.2.3 bug. Could you let me know whether EXS24 is affected (or not) ? Just tried it by created a project in 10.2.0 with multi-output EXS24, an reloading it into 10.2.3. Worked fine, so it looks like from a quick test that the EXS24 also is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnaud Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 des99, many thanks! Anyway, as with all updates, it will deserve a full back-up before updating, and then thourough check of existing projects after having done so. Blind trust is something I've lost a while ago down the road... Thanks again, Arnaud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmedia Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Someone above said that Ultrabeat seems unaffected by this annoying 10.2.3 bug. Could you let me know whether EXS24 is affected (or not) ? Just tried it by created a project in 10.2.0 with multi-output EXS24, an reloading it into 10.2.3. Worked fine, so it looks like from a quick test that the EXS24 also is ok. Are you sure? Have you checked, that there is also sound on those channels? With 3rd party plugins, the assignment looks good, but actually the sounds are all routed to the master out of the plugin. Only when I changed the assignments manually, saved the session, opened it again, it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creationcollective Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I found this on the Facebook. I thought it might help. MULTI OUT FIX: 'In the Input menu for the multi-out Aux channel strips, the selected output is listed twice, with the current selection on the bottom of the menu. Select the duplicate setting closer to the top of the menu instead.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Are you sure? Have you checked, that there is also sound on those channels? With 3rd party plugins, the assignment looks good, but actually the sounds are all routed to the master out of the plugin. Only when I changed the assignments manually, saved the session, opened it again, it worked. Yes. I knew what I was looking for, there were levels on each of the output channels, and I muted and soloed each to make sure audio was coming out of them. It was what I expected (in my case - dry drum mics from the main instrument outputs, room mics on the next pair, and overheads on the the pair of EXS24 outputs.) If you don't believe me, it only takes a few seconds to try - give a go on your system to verify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I can confirm des99 findings. EXS24, Ultrabeat, DrumKitDesigner are all working properly. I'm only experiencing this anomaly with AU instruments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnaud Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Eric, des99 (again), lots of thanks for having ensured and reconfirmed this (quite useful a piece of info for someone like me who hasn't yet made the move to update LPX - I won't do it in the middle of the project I'm working on at the moment). Cheers, Arnaud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic8mine Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 With 3rd party plugins, the assignment looks good, but actually the sounds are all routed to the master out of the plugin. Only when I changed the assignments manually, saved the session, opened it again, it worked. This didn't work for me. I had to create a new session and import all tracks with stereo routing, midi regions from Multi-Output tracks, relevant global stracks and project settings, then recreate the multi output instruments and assignments before the multi outs work work. I found this on the Facebook. I thought it might help.MULTI OUT FIX: 'In the Input menu for the multi-out Aux channel strips, the selected output is listed twice, with the current selection on the bottom of the menu. Select the duplicate setting closer to the top of the menu instead.' Thanks for this. Good to know. Thankfully, I'm back up a running on 10.2.2. (with a little help from my friends) 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmedia Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 With 3rd party plugins, the assignment looks good, but actually the sounds are all routed to the master out of the plugin. Only when I changed the assignments manually, saved the session, opened it again, it worked. This didn't work for me. I had to create a new session and import all tracks with stereo routing, midi regions from Multi-Output tracks, relevant global stracks and project settings, then recreate the multi output instruments and assignments before the multi outs work work. THAT's definitely a no-go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnaud Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Indeed, stardustmedia. How the heck to remember/make sure exact same settings are recreated for everything including vol/pan/sends/plug-ins/automation? This would freak me out as it could kill a complex mix. Fortunately it seems that the easier correction exists, by reselecting the right multi-out bus (not its duplicate) in the input of the muli-out aux return CS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon R. Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Anyone who knows where I can download 10.2.2 so I can see where my routing was supposed to go and hopefully fix it in 10.2.3? I accidentally just recently set the apps to "auto update" so I am screwed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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