drishti Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) Hi, I got some problems assigning a midi controller (tried the LPD8 and Maschine in midi mode) in Logic Pro X to the smart controls. When go into learn mode and turn a knob it gets assigned, but it won't control the assigned smart control knob. Before I assign the knob I see "midi in" activity in the status window, but after it's assigned, not. When I turn the knob after I assigned it, and have the controller assignment window open, it will jump to the correct assignment. I deleted all assignments before, so there's nothing else left that could conflict. I also tried deleting "com.apple.logic.pro.cs", like it was suggested in some forum posts. Help? Edited October 3, 2016 by drishti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 First, in case this helps (you, or someone else researching this topic), I wrote a complete article on that topic: https://www.logicprohelp.com/assign-midi-controller-knobs-plugin-logic-pro/ Now after you learn your external assignment, make sure your give your hardware knob a complete turn all the way to the left, then all the way to the right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drishti Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 I did read that article and worked after it, I believe... Just checked, and yes, I did it just like this. I just tried turning the knob all the way to the left and right, while in learn mode. Makes no difference... Maybe a Sierra problem? Although I find it unlikely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Are you assigning it to a Logic plug-in or 3rd party plug-in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drishti Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 I tried with Sylenth. Just a second. I'll try a Logic synth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drishti Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 Thanks. That was it. Logic synths work. Seems to be a Sylenth problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drishti Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 Hm, funny. When I create a new track in my project with only Sylenth in it, it works as advertised. I wonder what might be the problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drishti Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 When I remove all other plugins from the problematic track and just leave Sylenth there, it still won't work. Weird bug... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Just tried it here with a couple of Sylenth1 parameters (Osc volume, filter cutoff) and it works as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drishti Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 Yes, as I said, when I create a new track with Sylenth, it works. But the already existing track seems to be broken somehow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Yes, as I said, when I create a new track with Sylenth, it works. But the already existing track seems to be broken somehow... Feel free to attach your project here (the one with the broken track) so one of us can have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drishti Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 So, I think I know what was causing the problem. The channel was inside a summing stack. If I move it outside the stack, everything works fine. This is a very annoying limitation. Is there a workaround? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drishti Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 I found this. http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=107045 Seems to be a very old bug... The workaround sadly won't do it for me, as I want to control various plugins within a channel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnaud Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Drishti, the (very interesting) post you unearthed actually provides with 3 totally different workarounds: * Jordi's (which actually hardwires the assignment to an exact track number, instead of "selected track") However, here's a workaround: -Make your assignment. -Click the pencil next to the assignment or use the key command (Shift-Option-K) to open the controller Assignments window. -Go to the Expert View, select the assignment and change the "Channel Strip" parameter from "Selected Track" to "Software Instrument" (assuming you're dealing with a software instrument track) and make sure the box to the right has the appropriate channel strip number. After doing this you'll see the external assignment in the Smart Controls inspector change to "Unassigned", but this is another bug because the assignment will continue to work. When you're done with your assignments you can create your Track Stack and the assignment won't be lost. * Cello's (which involves only linking the midi controller to the summing stack bus' smart controls, and from there assign there summing bus' smart controls to specific parameters of a subtrack) i just found another workaround:after creating the stack, open the smart control panel in the main bus, then manually assign the control to the desired track's parameter. Now it should fetch midi from the controller again. This technique can be handy to have controls over all your instruments inside a stack or map controls from different instruments to a single knob. * Eric's (put the mixer in All view mode). My workaround is to set the Mixer to All view. That's all you need for the Controller Assignments to see them as selected channel strips. Which exactly doesn't work for you? Controlling severtal plugins of a given track all at once with one smart control should work in all 3 solutions (it's only a matter of mapping several parameters to the same smart control), and in case you would want to control various plugings across several subtracks in the stack, I would guess Cello's solution should work as well (again it's the matter of mapping the smart control to more than one parameter). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drishti Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 All won't work for me. Jordis workaround doesn't work for me, because in a nearly finished project I'll have around 60-80 tracks. I don't want to change stuff arounf, just when I want to control another track. Cellos workaround doesn't work. Erics workaround also doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphonz Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I would have to agree, this is a very annoying bug. Basically, controller assignments don't work inside any kind of stack, folder or summing, period. Very annoying indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themarvinside Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Interestingly, the bug still exists for some kontakt 6 plugins for me. Other instruments which have their own plugin like Hans Zimmer Strings work just fine inside a Summing Stack... Is this still considered a bug or did anybody find a solution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasfelippe Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Hello friend, I am going to perform some tests this week to try to help. I am a user of MASCHINE + LOGIC, I would advise you to use your MASCHINE in MACKIE mode, has an interaction that works very nice. You can open your plugins control them through knobs, mute, solo, perform bus sends, finally Maschine in MACKIE mode inside the logic is very ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vutan Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Hello. Any updates on this issue? I am having the same problem and none of the described workarounds worked for me. The solution with the fader bank works but not so convenient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsandman Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 I just tested and confirmed this bug still exists in Logic 10.7.4 🙁 I hope a fix comes soon. Removing tracks from folder stack to be able to assign a plugin parameter to an external midi controller is a real bummer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravez Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 it does work if you select the stack first and then command select the track in the stack, but it’s annoying, wish they fixed it for sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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