KJD Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Hi All- I recorded a song long ago, using a 1-drop rhythm, and now just had a friend with a studio record the drums for it. The drum track sounds great. The song clocks in at 76 BPM, using Logic's BPM utility plug-in. However- the original project was set at 120 (I knew nothing of setting the BPM correctly when I first recorded it). And now I don't have any tracks that I can "nudge" the timing on, as nothing lines up in Flex Time. I cannot use quantize either. I've tried creating a new project and tapping the tempo, but it won't work- the song slows to a crawl until I adjust the tempo back to 120. Any suggestion? Or am I doomed to start completely over? Thanks, KJD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Probably, if your song is contained in a single audio region, you could simply stretch that region after setting the project tempo to 76. Alternately, create a new empty project that you set the tempo to 76; and then upon importing the audio file, you deny adjusting the project's tempo to the imported audio's one, when Logic pops up the alert for same. Or you could try SMPTE-lock the audio region, then change the project tempo (to 76), then BIP the locked region to the new tempo. There could be other methods... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJD Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 Thank you for the tips, I'll give these a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJD Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 Unfortunately, nothing I've tried is working. I can set the tempo on a new project to 76, import the drum track, and it plays just fine. But when I turn on Flex to adjust timing and line everything up to the grid, drum track slows was down. Any other suggestions? Thanks, KJD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myvarimu Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 You missed the last point, you have to bounce in place the new regions to reset the tempo information locked to any given region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJD Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 OK- So I SMTPE locked the region. Changed the tempo from 120 to 76. Bounced the locked region in place. So far, so good.. Then, I turned on Flex, so I can line it up to the grid. Now the drum track plays in super slow motion. In other words, no change. If anyone has any other ideas, please let me know. Or if you would like to give it a shot, here's a link to download the drum track. Drums come in at about 00:11.17. http://www.koledunn.com/stems/drums.wav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Another approach would be a little more convoluted. It implies working on a copy of the original audio file, since it will alter the audio destructively. By destructively I don't mean it will destroy it, but instead it will perform edition that could not be undone. So, it would be wise to work on a copy of the file instead of risking to lose the original one... -Make copy of your drums.wav file, and rename it (i.e. drumscopy.wav) -Load drumscopy.wav in Logic. -Open it in the Audio File editor, not to confuse with the Audio Track editor. -From the Audio File editor's local menu, Choose Edit > Tempo > Remove Tempo Information from Audio File. -Check in the Tempo list to make sure there are'nt any tempo changes recorded in the project. If any, delete them all, except for the first desired one at position 1 1 1 1. -Then, follow the instructions described here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJD Posted July 30, 2017 Author Share Posted July 30, 2017 Thank you Atlas for your help. I do not see Tempo > Remove Tempo in the Edit menu. Here's what I see in the Edit menu: http://www.koledunn.com/stems/menu.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maceasy Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Look up beat mapping in the manual and online. It is too long to explain here, but there is plenty of tutorials and so on available online. Also, check Edit>Tempo>Adjust Tempo using Region length and locators. And Show Beat Mapping Track. Then you can use flex to tidy it up if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJD Posted July 30, 2017 Author Share Posted July 30, 2017 Thanks maceasy, will do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Thank you Atlas for your help. I do not see Tempo > Remove Tempo in the Edit menu. Here's what I see in the Edit menu:http://www.koledunn.com/stems/menu.jpg You are right! It seems that the published documentation needs to be updated... However you will find the command in Logic main menu (above the top of the software window): Logic Pro X > Edit > Tempo > Remove Tempo Information from Audio File. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maceasy Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Just to clarify what i said: It sounds like you are setting a tempo then trying to conform the audio to it. Whereas it should be the other way round. Use the audio to conform Logic's tempo to it (by beat mapping, or setting tempo to a region length of your choosing - but any real drummer will have tempo variations, which is why you set up a beat map, to follow those). Then the grid will align with the beats and you can adjust or quantise to your heart's content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJD Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 Thanks Atlas, I did end up finding the command, it helped! I'm getting closer... Maceasy, awesome, thank you. I'll learn beat mapping in Logic and see how that works out. I'll let you all know the results! KJD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJD Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 Guys, just want to say thanks for the excellent advice on this. It's turning out great! The cymbals are little bright in the mix, but getting really close. Take a listen to these results: https://soundcloud.com/bluekulele/forever-girl-pre-release/s-LoRpU Thanks again! KJD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maceasy Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Great news, KJD. For the benefit of others, could you tell us what method solved your tempo issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Nice reggae tune! Have you considered boosting a little the bass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJD Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 Thank you! Yes, bass boost! Seems to lack a little bottom end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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