perlmunger Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 When I click on the keys in the interface inside logic, I can hear the sound just fine and when I load in WAVESTATION, the keyboard works fine, but when I load in the M1 synth, playing keys on my keyboard is silent. Any idea what might be preventing it from working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Can you use your keyboard with any other synth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perlmunger Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 Yes. It seems the M1 is the only one that doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 What MIDI channel are you transmitting to Logic on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perlmunger Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 Channel strip says "All" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 The MIDI channel of the 3rd party plugin (Korg M1) also has to correspond to what your MIDI keyboard controller is emitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Eric Cardenas Posted November 20, 2017 Solution Share Posted November 20, 2017 Channel strip says "All" Try changing it to channel 1 instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perlmunger Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 Channel strip says "All" Try changing it to channel 1 instead. Ok. Switching to MIDI Channel 1 worked! Strange that "All" was fine for the Wavestation plugin. Anyhow, thanks for the help!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perlmunger Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 The MIDI channel of the 3rd party plugin (Korg M1) also has to correspond to what your MIDI keyboard controller is emitting. Ok cool. So, how can I find out what the keyboard controller is emitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Which keyboard are you using? Normally you could see that information in Logic's LCD MIDI In readout, or in the Environment via a Monitor object. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Ok. Switching to MIDI Channel 1 worked! Strange that "All" was fine for the Wavestation plugin. Anyhow, thanks for the help!! When the inspector is set to "All", it passes all incoming data as is to the plugin - so if your keyboard is transmitting on MIDI channel 3, channl 3 events are wha get sent to the plugin. Whn you change the inspector to, for instance, "1", Logic rechannelises all incoming MIDI data onto MIDI channel 1 for the plugin. The M1 in your screenshot is in combi mode, where multiple patches are set up, layered/split on particular MIDI channels. So if your M1 combi has three patches all set to receive on MIDI channel 1, and you are sending MIDI channel 3 data to the plugin, the M1 won't do anything. The Wavestation is most of the time in a straight synth mode, so it will respond to any MIDI channel and play. That's why the different in behaviour. Most mono-timbral synths will tend to not care about the incoming MIDI channel, whereas multi-timbral plugins use the MIDI channel to identify which part to play, so the MIDI channel is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perlmunger Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Ok. Switching to MIDI Channel 1 worked! Strange that "All" was fine for the Wavestation plugin. Anyhow, thanks for the help!! When the inspector is set to "All", it passes all incoming data as is to the plugin - so if your keyboard is transmitting on MIDI channel 3, channl 3 events are wha get sent to the plugin. Whn you change the inspector to, for instance, "1", Logic rechannelises all incoming MIDI data onto MIDI channel 1 for the plugin. The M1 in your screenshot is in combi mode, where multiple patches are set up, layered/split on particular MIDI channels. So if your M1 combi has three patches all set to receive on MIDI channel 1, and you are sending MIDI channel 3 data to the plugin, the M1 won't do anything. The Wavestation is most of the time in a straight synth mode, so it will respond to any MIDI channel and play. That's why the different in behaviour. Most mono-timbral synths will tend to not care about the incoming MIDI channel, whereas multi-timbral plugins use the MIDI channel to identify which part to play, so the MIDI channel is important. Wow! Great feedback. That is super helpful. So, I've notice now that when adding a new track and choosing the M1, it seems to work by default with "All" selected. I'm thinking, from your comments, that this may be due to the fact that the patch I chose once I got it working was not in combi mode. I'm not sure, but it does seem to just work with "All" now, all of the sudden. Thanks again for the insight. I really appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 In Prog mode (single patch mode), the M1 responds to the Global MIDI channel set in the Global prefs. Check that, and set it to 1 if it's not 1. In Combi mode, each part is set to a specific MIDI channel, which could be different for every combi (multiple parts set to the same channel are layered, multiple parts on different MIDI channels are designed for independently sequencing or playing them.) They are mostly designed around MIDI channel 1, which is the most commonly used setting for a master keyboard. Make sure your master keyboard is transmitting on channel 1 as well, and this should all get a bit easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zplane Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Just FYI - Looks like at least the Wavestation plugin no longer passes authorization in Logic 10.4.7 on Catalina 10.15.2. There have been no updates that I can see to the Legacy collection by Korg for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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