bigramp Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Hi Is there a way to make a rendering queue ? I have tons of stems to export and that would be awesome, instead of wasting all my time in front of the computer... thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 How do you export your stems? You can use File > Export > All Tracks as Audio Files to do it all in one go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigramp Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 Hi I export drums / keys / gtr / fx, so groups of tracks each time. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 You could reroute those groups to busses and record those busses onto new tracks in real time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigramp Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 It's a good idea but sadly these group of tracks need to go through some FX on the master bus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Then you'd have to use an Aux as your master bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 these group of tracks need to go through some FX on the master bus BTW this other topic may be of interest to you: Bouncing stems with mastering processing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigramp Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 But i would have to create five different Aux that replicate the master bus, isn't it ? Otherwise i wouldn't be able to record the 5 stems at the same time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 But i would have to create five different Aux that replicate the master bus, isn't it ? Otherwise i wouldn't be able to record the 5 stems at the same time... Well then that would no longer be master output processing per se... what type of effects are on your master bus? Did you see the topic I linked to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigramp Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 Yes i've read it. On my master bus is an eq + ssl compressor. No limiter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Yes i've read it. On my master bus is an eq + ssl compressor. No limiter. The problem is, that compressor won't process the sound in the same way when you bounce stems vs when you bounce the whole mix. In other words, summing your processed stems will not get you the same results as processing the sum of your raw stems. Basically, you can't do master bus processing when delivering stems. But for individual group processing, you could simply copy or move those plug-ins to the channel strip routing the subxmix of each group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigramp Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 Yes i know about these issues but i feel you lose something in every case... so i leave the compressor on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 i feel you lose something in every case... By delivering stems, you lose control over the master bus, therefore you can not apply bus compression on your stems. You could apply individual compression but that's for a different goal, and sounds different, so I'm not sure why you'd think that because you can't apply bus compression, applying individual compression is better than nothing. That doesn't quite make sense to me. You have to accept to lose control over the master bus and relinquish that control to whoever is mixing the stems. Or ask to be the one mixing the project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigramp Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 I understand, bu I feel that SSL compressor is an integral part of the sound i chose to achieve while composing and mixing the track. Andy Wallace for example always has a SSL bus compressor on just after his SSL console. He mixes into it. Disable it and the mix will be something completely different. I make library music so these stems aren't a huge deal anyway. But i use the stems to do the 30sec and 60 sec versions and always manage to make them work. Disabling the compressor would add a lot to the workflow that's already long and painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I understand, bu I feel that SSL compressor is an integral part of the sound i chose to achieve while composing and mixing the track. Andy Wallace for example always has a SSL bus compressor on just after his SSL console. He mixes into it. Disable it and the mix will be something completely different. The integral part of his sound is to use the SSL compressor on his mix bus. You don't have access to the mix bus, so you can't possibly get that sound. You may hear it while you're mixing, but you can't possibly "include" that sound in your individual stems. I make library music so these stems aren't a huge deal anyway. But i use the stems to do the 30sec and 60 sec versions and always manage to make them work. Disabling the compressor would add a lot to the workflow that's already long and painful. The workaround is to place one compressor on each group — but like I said before, you're not compressing the mix bus so the effect isn't the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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