dk2429 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I'm having a problem with the drummer designer.... I'm trying to re-record a song from a while back from scratch (I deleted the original project a while back.) The song is in 3/4 at 172bpm. The drums should be playing in half time. For whatever reason, I can't for the life of me get the drummer to play the pattern I want. It worked just fine the first time I recorded the song, but no matter what I do I can't get him to do it this time. I tried going to 6/8, tried going to 86bpm, he's still playing some weird funky waltz or something. Here is the recording of the song... Skip to 1:07. This is the way I need him to play It's just a simple 3/4 rock beat. Any help? I've tried everything I know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk2429 Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 No one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denitronik Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Drummer seems to be optimized for binary beats (4/4, 2/4,...). I can only advise to change drummer, try a 3/8 beat maybe, use the follow feature or not, use the 1/2 time setting. You have to work at it in 3/4 as you can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Your youtube song has a 6/8 feel to it. Try that in logic’s drummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk2429 Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 I've tried 6/8, tried follow, tried every possible position on the kick/snare slider. I haven't tried 3/8.. I'll give that a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk2429 Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 Update- Tried the 3/8 method still nothing.. I just noticed that if I put it in 3/4 timing, with kick/snare slider on half time, everything plays as I want EXCEPT the snare.. He literally never hits the snare unless it's a fill. The snare isn't muted because I converted to midi track and there are no snare notes. This starting to drive me crazy.. It worked perfectly fine the first time I did the song months ago. Any other ideas? Thank you all for your help by the way, and Merry Christmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk2429 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 Anybody have any idea?? This is the song I need to re-do to complete our EP.... Still having the issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Have you tried using groove track, starring the original recording? If possible, try isolating the percussion pieces on different drummer tracks. As one can realize, the drummer has a "life" of its own... Meaning that there is a part of randomness, making its outcome at least partly unpredictable. So when you get what you want, even partly, convert same to MIDI, and either work from there, or use same as groove to lead drummer onto another track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk2429 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 Have you tried using groove track, starring the original recording?If possible, try isolating the percussion pieces on different drummer tracks. As one can realize, the drummer has a "life" of its own... Meaning that there is a part of randomness, making its outcome at least partly unpredictable. So when you get what you want, even partly, convert same to MIDI, and either work from there, or use same as groove to lead drummer onto another track. Thank you for your reply. I tried the groove track method with no success. I'm not to sure how to go about isolating the percussion pieces.... It's really annoying because as you can hear in the link I provided, it gave no issues whatsoever the first time we recorded song. The drummer did exactly as I wanted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinloops Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Have you tried using drummer to follow another track in the song? Maybe make a midi rhythm track with the groove you want , convert to audio and follow that track. For what it’s worth I have never gotten drummer to work well in times that aren’t divisible by twos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Can you save a copy of your project, clean up what's not needed for resolving this issue (delete all other tracks, all audio files from the Project File browser, delete alternatives, undo history etc...) and attach it here so we can have a look? How to attach files to your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk2429 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Can you save a copy of your project, clean up what's not needed for resolving this issue (delete all other tracks, all audio files from the Project File browser, delete alternatives, undo history etc...) and attach it here so we can have a look? How to attach files to your post I assume you mean only post what the drummer is doing? So no guitars, bass, vocals, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk2429 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Hopefully I did this right.. As you can hear, the drummer is not hitting the snare when he needs to. Best way to put it his- He should hit the snare on the first beat of every other measure.. Again, you can use the youtube link I provided as a reference Logic Forum.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinloops Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Sounds like 4/4 to me. Just slow tempo. A one - - a two - - a three - - a four. With lots of triplets thrown in. At 2:25 or so it starts in with 1 and a 2 and a 3 and a 4 and a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk2429 Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 Sounds like 4/4 to me. Just slow tempo. A one - - a two - - a three - - a four. With lots of triplets thrown in. At 2:25 or so it starts in with 1 and a 2 and a 3 and a 4 and a. Its 3/4 my dude.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinloops Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I dint listen to the project yet. I meant the YouTube video. Will give it another listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assessor Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 The closest I can achieve is: Tempo=86 Sig: 6/8 Cymbal pattern variation=1 Kick&Snare pattern variation=1 Swing=60% And maybe change the X/Y pad a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk2429 Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 Thank you very much for your time Assessor!! I'll input those settings when I get home and see what I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk2429 Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 The closest I can achieve is:Tempo=86 Sig: 6/8 Cymbal pattern variation=1 Kick&Snare pattern variation=1 Swing=60% And maybe change the X/Y pad a bit. Assessor, Man, thank you so much! That is exactly what I was looking for.. Only thing I did different was put the cymbal slide on 4 and it's perfect. Again, I can't thank you enough. Y'all rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assessor Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Man, thank you so much! That is exactly what I was looking for.. Only thing I did different was put the cymbal slide on 4 and it's perfect. Again, I can't thank you enough. Y'all rock! I'm just glad I could help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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