Plastic Meanie Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Middle of a big project. Suddenly I can't enter midi notes in the piano roll by drawing them in. If I try a tiny note appears on the left of the midi region but it won't allow me to move it, stretch it or edit it in any way. I can play notes in from my keyboard as normal but if I try and edit these notes, move, stretch etc etc, it won't let me. All I seem to be able to do is delete the notes by highlighting and backspace. I have restarted the mac, closed and reopened the project several times but the problem persists. Only in this project. Old projects work fine still. Any ideas what caused this behaviour and how to solve?? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 If you create a new software instrument track in that project and control-click the track, choose Create Empty MIDI Region, then double-click that region: can you pencil in new notes as expected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Do you have anything before 1.1.1.1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Meanie Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 If you create a new software instrument track in that project and control-click the track, choose Create Empty MIDI Region, then double-click that region: can you pencil in new notes as expected? No, that's the whole problem. I create a new region, anywhere on the timeline, any sort of software instrument and when I try and add some notes it just creates one on the first beat of the region as per the screengrab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Meanie Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 Do you have anything before 1.1.1.1? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Meanie Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 It's almost like there's some project-wide quantize/snap to first beat of region thing going in. I discovered I can enter notes in the step editor as usual but then if I try and edit these in the piano roll the behaviour persists and it won't let me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 What is your Snap setting in the Piano Roll? If you zoom in on a note and resize it to make it larger, can you then enter new larger notes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Meanie Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 It's set to Bar but I tried it with other settings and it still happens. And I can't really zoom in on a note to resize it, tried that too! but it sort of flashes to a large one then presents the tiny one on the left edge again. Baffling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Plastic Meanie Posted February 22, 2020 Author Solution Share Posted February 22, 2020 OK, solved by another Logic guru, Desmond, on the Sound on Sound forum. So big shoutout to him. As I suspected, it was snap behaviour: I had Snap to Grid enabled on the piano roll. Obviously did this accidentally, and it was set to bar, hence the behaviour. I see it has a keyboard shortcut Apple G so maybe I did this accidentally without noticing. But perhaps my stupidity will help somebody else who does the same thing. Apparently the reason you get the tiny notes is, according to the aforementioned: "If the note length is *shorter* than your snap value, you'll get that small note at the start - when you enter it, as you drag to the right to change its length, nothing will happen unless you get the end of the note to the next snap value, at which point the note length will visibly change. In short, the Snap to Grid is helping you both align note starts, *and* note ends." Thanks for your responses everyone. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 OK, solved by another Logic guru, Desmond, on the Sound on Sound forum. So big shoutout to him. As I suspected, it was snap behaviour: I had Snap to Grid enabled on the piano roll. That's what I suspected too! Good to hear you've resolved this, and thanks for letting us know what it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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