JCcares Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I've been having trouble with Logic recognizing my Motif when I open up logic or turn on my keyboard (Motif with USB out selected). Logic does this until I disconnect the USB cable after opening Logic & reconnect it & then everything works fine.Not sure why.I also updated to the latest Logic version today but it did not help. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rAC Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Does it happen if you also open the MIDI Studio before Logic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 Does it happen if you also open the MIDI Studio before Logic? Thanks for the response.Im not sure what you meant by Midi Studio. I usually turn on my motif & set it to send midi signal via USB,& then I open Logic.Sometimes I do it the other way around.But still I get into this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rAC Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Look in the Utilities folder of your Apps, I think it’s call Audio/MIDI something when you open it From the menu at the top open the MIDI window. I asked about this as there was recently an issue with some people not getting their MIDI working unless they opened this window first - apparently it was a timing issue in coreAudio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 Look in the Utilities folder of your Apps, I think it’s call Audio/MIDI something when you open it From the menu at the top open the MIDI window. I asked about this as there was recently an issue with some people not getting their MIDI working unless they opened this window first - apparently it was a timing issue in coreAudio. Thanks.I checked in the Midi Studio & everything seems connected well.But it did not seem to help.While there was no midi signal being read in Logic,the moment I disconnect I get the message that midi has changed.When I reconnect everything works fine ! Not sure why this has ben happing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rAC Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Did you leave the MIDI studio open when you started Logic or did you just look at it and then close it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx509 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I also have an issue with Logic not recognizing my midi controller. I have an AKAI Max25 and an Alesis V21. I usually have to restart my computer to fix the issue. I just purchased a new 2019 mabook i9 and this computer (although as a whole it runs Logic much more efficiently) seems to have more of this particular issue. I have the custom transport window open and I'm not getting any midi in and out info coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 I still seem to have this issue.Today I switched from Motif to a simple Yamaha PSR S 710 & Logic immediately recognized it without any issue though! What does that say? Is it a Motif ES USB driver issue? I wonder if they have any updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 When you get the issue, try to select Logic Pro X > Control Surfaces > Bypass All Control Surfaces, and see if that fixes it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 When you get the issue, try to select Logic Pro X > Control Surfaces > Bypass All Control Surfaces, and see if that fixes it? Sorry for the delayed response.I was using a Yamaha PSR keyboard & switched back to Motif today's once again bumping into the same issue.Yes I tried bypassing all control surfaces but still didn't seem to help.I'm not sure what magic takes place when I disconnect & reconnect the USB cable! When I disconnect I get an alert on Logic saying something like Number of midi ports changed....! Any help on this is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I've been having trouble with Logic recognizing my Motif when I open up logic or turn on my keyboard (Motif with USB out selected). Logic does this until I disconnect the USB cable after opening Logic & reconnect it & then everything works fine.Not sure why.I also updated to the latest Logic version today but it did not help. Thanks. Which exact Logic version did you update from and to which one did you to? The system specs posted in your signature are confusing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 I've been having trouble with Logic recognizing my Motif when I open up logic or turn on my keyboard (Motif with USB out selected). Logic does this until I disconnect the USB cable after opening Logic & reconnect it & then everything works fine.Not sure why.I also updated to the latest Logic version today but it did not help. Thanks. Which exact Logic version did you update from and to which one did you to? The system specs posted in your signature are confusing... Sorry,I just updated my signature! I have been regularly updating to current versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rAC Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Does the Motif show up properly in the MIDI Studio? ANd have you tried leaving the MIDI studio open when you launch Logic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Yes I tried bypassing all control surfaces but still didn't seem to help. Sounds like you're not 100% certain whether it helped or not. Can you make sure? If it does not help, can you describe a specific example of a behavior you get when you perform a certain action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 Does the Motif show up properly in the MIDI Studio? ANd have you tried leaving the MIDI studio open when you launch Logic? Yes it does show up in the midi studio & I also tried leaving the midi studio during Logic launch.Here is a screen shot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 Yes I tried bypassing all control surfaces but still didn't seem to help. Sounds like you're not 100% certain whether it helped or not. Can you make sure? If it does not help, can you describe a specific example of a behavior you get when you perform a certain action? Oh I'm 100% sure it does not work.Well this is what happens.Before & sometimes after launching Logic ,I set Motif ES to transmit USB data & then when I play the keyboard nothing happens & there is no midi recognition.However when I disconnect the USB cable from the back of my Motif I get the message " Changed number of midi inputs outputs.Now 0 input/outputs available".Then when I reconnect the cable everything works fine & I am able to trigger midi with the keyboard.Not sure why the keyboard is recognized only while disconnecting & reconnecting the USB cable on the keyboard.I used an old Yamaha PSR S 710 & Logic was able to recognize it immediately.So this is exactly what is going on.I downloaded the latest Yamaha midi driver yesterday from what I could find for the ES model.( Yamaha users- If there is a current update to the Motif ES driver with I may have missed ,pls let me know) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 However when I disconnect the USB cable from the back of my Motif I get the message " Changed number of midi inputs outputs.Now 0 input/outputs available".Then when I reconnect the cable everything works fine & I am able to trigger midi with the keyboard.Not sure why the keyboard is recognized only while disconnecting & reconnecting the USB cable on the keyboard. I'm not sure but this doesn't look related to Logic, only to your keyboard, so I would contact Yamaha and ask them for help troubleshooting. Still to make sure I'm right about this I recommend you download Snoize's MIDI Monitor to help you troubleshooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Have you tried resetting your Motif? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 However when I disconnect the USB cable from the back of my Motif I get the message " Changed number of midi inputs outputs.Now 0 input/outputs available".Then when I reconnect the cable everything works fine & I am able to trigger midi with the keyboard.Not sure why the keyboard is recognized only while disconnecting & reconnecting the USB cable on the keyboard. I'm not sure but this doesn't look related to Logic, only to your keyboard, so I would contact Yamaha and ask them for help troubleshooting. Still to make sure I'm right about this I recommend you download Snoize's MIDI Monitor to help you troubleshooting. Thanks I will check on this Midi Monitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 Have you tried resetting your Motif? No,it’s been a while.Maybe I should try it.I have used the same keyboard but I can say for the past 6 months atleast I’ve been having this issue. Really appreciate all the help from you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 Have you tried resetting your Motif? Resetting the Motif didn't help.Just tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 If your Motif is set to "auto" in Logics Control Surfaces Preferences>Midi Controllers, try deselect that and see if it changes anything ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 Sorry to keep this on as I'm still ealing with this issue. Thought I will add a thing of interest in this pursuit:.Even though Logic does not recognize midi signals coming out of the keyboard (unless cable disconnected & reconnected), when I turn off the keyboard while Logic is on I get this message "Changed number of Midi inputs..." ! So this tells me that Logic does know that a keyboard is on but does not collect it's midi data unless the cable is reconnected.Does this mean anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Did you check in your Control Surface Setup window to see what has been installed there. Some MIDI glitches could occur and trigger undue controller installations which could cause issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 Did you check in your Control Surface Setup window to see what has been installed there. Some MIDI glitches could occur and trigger undue controller installations which could cause issue... Control Surface Setup window.png Hmm I've never thought about Control Surface Setup.After I saw your post I clicked on Control Surface & Setup & all I see is the iPad mixer.Nothing else is found. Am I supposed to see a midi keyboard or Motif display on it ? At this point my keyboard is turned off though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Thanks I will check on this Midi Monitor. You're welcome. Have you tried it yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 Thanks I will check on this Midi Monitor. You're welcome. Have you tried it yet? Not yet.I was a bit hesitant to download it hoping the issue could be fixed internally.But I would definitely check in on that eventually if the problem persists.Regarding the Control surfaces,I don't see the keyboard on display.All is see is the iPad icon.Is that normal? Should the keyboard show up there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 There's no "should": you could set up your keyboard as a control surface — but you don't have to. For me the next step is to check MIDI Monitor to determine whether your Mac is receiving MIDI events that Logic doesn't interpret, or whether your Mac is no longer receiving MIDI events. That app is a tiny app, it's free, it takes a minute to download and install, so it's a quick and easy test which will tell you a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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