ben37 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Trying to map a control to a midi knob. First part of the process goes fine (learning the control) External control assignment, though... I move a knob, it gives me "input gain," not the control on the synth that I just mapped... ?? What am I missing? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Why is the controller assignment window open? It shouldn't even open at all. You should just click Learn and the selected Smart Control should be assigned to whatever know you're turning: https://www.logicprohelp.com/assign-midi-controller-knobs-plugin-logic-pro/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben37 Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 right... yeah, i opened it just to show the parameter that got mapped (not filter 2 cutoff as it should be). pretty bizarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Did you have some existing controller assignments perhaps? What happens if you delete the assignment and try again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben37 Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 Tried that.. made sure the list was empty, tried mapping to two different hardware units, same result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Have you checked in the Controller Setup window if you have some undue controller installation? Have you checked in the Control Surface pref (MIDI Controllers tab)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben37 Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 Setup window shows no undue installation. Control surfaces prefs tab does not include the controller I'm trying to set up. Bad? Said controller works to play notes so clearly it's seen by logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Control surfaces prefs tab does not include the controller I'm trying to set up. Bad? I don't think so.BTW which controller are you using? How does your Controller Assignment looks like? Is your Spire inside a Stack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben37 Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 Korg NanoKey Studio. My two NanoKontrol2's are there, main keyboard (nektar impact) and maschine. For some reason I don't see the NanoKey Studio, although it works to play notes, as I said above. And its knobs work with smart controls, albeit not properly, hence this post. Is there a way to just reset/rescan everything? maybe that's what needs to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Is there a way to just reset/rescan everything? Delete com.apple.logic.pro.cs (in ~/Library/Preferences/). maybe that's what needs to happen I would first have double-check a completely empty controller assignment window and try to perform only that single Smart Control assignment. If you can, post a screenshot of the resulting assignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Also I noticed that if the target (3rd party) plugin is inside a summing stack, the assigned Smart Controls don't always react graphically to their hardware controls action. The target plugin parameter does however respond appropriately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben37 Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 Thanks for the ideas. Seems that summing stacks are the culprit. This isn't a well known thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben37 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 What I've learned. When a (3rd partly only?) software instrument is on a track in a summing stack, and you click Learn in the top portion of the of the smart controls Inspector, you can move a parameter on your virtual instrument and map it to a smart control. However, when you click Learn in the bottom box of the Smart controls Inspector, and twist a knob on your physical controller, you will be inadvertently mapping a function of one of the plugins on your Summing stack track. Instead of clicking Learn in the top smart controls inspector box, you can click the little "disclosure triangle" in the Parameter Mapping section, then scroll down to the track on which the plugin you wish to automate is instantiated, find said plugin, then find the parameter and select it. Now, two f%&ked up things happen: 1) the control does map properly to your physical controller, but the smart controls window shows a different parameter moving than the actual one that is mapped( it shows something moving from one of the plugins on the the summing track). 2) When you try automate using the knob on your physical controller, it does not work to record automation! Even though you see it moving the parameter on the plugin, and see the parameter's automation line moving up and down in the background of the automation lane, it will not actually record automation. But, If you use your mouse to grab the same parameter on the plugin, then it does record automation. Might have to just stop using track stacks and make old school summing busses instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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